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how to exit toxic work situation gracefully?

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buttheydo · 16/09/2018 09:21

Really feeling weird and blindsided by work situation. Am a little embarrassed to share with too many real-life people so hoping for a perception check here?

I am a lawyer working for a charity. Been working at this place for nearly five years. It's chaotic but well-resourced so as long as I can "manage" my chaotic boss it's a place where I can do a lot of good work for clients (public welfare law).

There is a loooot of turnover due to chaotic manager. In early spring of this year a senior person left and I took over all of her cases (in a niche/specialist area). No hand-over or orientation and the cases were in a bit of a mess but I've handled it (patting self on back). Predecessor left because workload was impossible.

I have once or twice had to talk to my boss about capacity but it's shut down and once she even said, "You're refusing to do work." I tried to have an informal chat with our CEO but he just said my boss was "trying to help me". That's when my job search began.

Back in June I was assigned an urgent case with an impossible deadline. There was literally no way to get it to the court in time. I suggested submitting it late with an explanation for the delay but I was just shot down. I suggested a certain shortcut (doing something myself and cutting out a contractor) and put that suggestion in an email (having an instinct to cover my arse), and then managed to submit the bundle at court in time (you're welcome).

After that I did try and have a talk with another manager about how unsafe it was to work that way and could we perhaps get a better system in place (which we have).

Things were actually going well for the last few months, and then I got an amazing job at an amazing firm. I accepted, and then came back in from a long weekend and asked to see my boss to have the bittersweet "thanks and I'm leaving" conversation. The new job is due to start in December so a nice long hand-over.

Was ambushed by an aggressive meeting with boss when I returned from leave. Evidently the rush case in June has blown up because contractor was mad that we did a shortcut and cut him out. It's absolutely my fault because I didn't check with anyone. (I pointed out that I'd run that shortcut by boss but it's still all my fault.)

The meeting was padded out with other criticisms like, "While you were away we got a notice of adjournment but there was no information on why you requested an adjournment!" I said, "I'm sure I put something in the casenotes," and she said, "Well yeah, further down in the casenotes, I had to look for it!"

In another file she found evidence that I hadn't submitted to the court for an appeal. I had a file note saying "this evidence not submitted to court because X" but evidently she didn't believe my note? So she "had to" spend three hours searching my emails to confirm that the evidence really didn't need to be at court. When I gently pointed out that she could have saved herself the trouble by just ringing me (I'd said I was available by phone) she explained that was an outrageous suggestion. (The case is absolutely fine.)

There were also some technical billing things that she hadn't told me about before, yet she said she had. I took the line of, "I don't see that you've told me about this before but okay, let me know what the steps are ..."

It ended with her saying I was no longer allowed to work on these niche cases and I had to take over other work. So then I said thanks for the feedback and I had a new job and my last day would be mid-December.

She's now taken personal leave for at least the next week. The other supervisor has sheepishly asked me to continue working on niche cases (no one else can do them).

My question/dilemma: how to sail through these last three months? The irrational behaviour of boss has really creeped me out and it does not feel like a safe/honest/normal place anymore. I fear that I am going to get set up/scapegoated for things and my reputation will take a hit. It is actually hard to think and function.

Options:

  1. Attempt again to have conversation with CEO about bullying? And request gardening leave for the last few weeks of job?


  1. Not bother with wimpy CEO and just tell them I've changed my mind and am giving my thirty-day contractual notice? And let them suffer? (And live off savings for the month or so I'll be unemployed?) An advantage is that I could do some very high profile volunteer work during that unemployed period that would help my career.


  1. Other option?


I know some people would say "grievance!" "constructive dismissal!" "Employment Tribunal!" but this is a small field and I want to be seen to sail happily into a new job rather than be seen to leave my current job under a cloud.

I am also considering taking sick leave for a week as I am frankly really struggling psychologically with all this weirdness. But I am worried for my reputation.

Help?
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Whatsnewwithyou · 16/09/2018 09:24

Oh my goodness if you're only obligated to give 30 days notice just do that! And if you have any leave to take in that time, take it. You've done enough for these awful ungrateful people. Congratulations on your new job!

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LoveAGoodChat · 16/09/2018 09:24

Your boss sounds impossible to work for, is there anyone higher up than your boss that you can talk to?

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buttheydo · 16/09/2018 09:25

Oh, and before you ask: no there is not a union!

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DickensianHysteric · 16/09/2018 09:26

Give your 30 days notice and get out of there as soon as you can. It sounds like a dreadful situation and you've done well to stick it out as long as you have. So if you can afford to take a break before you start the new job, do it. Would they maybe let you start sooner if they know you are available?

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Finfintytint · 16/09/2018 09:26

I would give the 30 day notice.

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Dermymc · 16/09/2018 09:27

Do your 30 days then bye felicia

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Twittwootoo · 16/09/2018 09:28

If you can afford to AND do some work to further your career then I would do 30days. Sod them.

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GertrudeCB · 16/09/2018 09:29

If I were you I'd go with your 2nd option.

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babswindsor · 16/09/2018 09:29

30 days notice. You have already told wimpy CEO what's going on. Congratulations on your new job.

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WatchOutForTheCar · 16/09/2018 09:30

Absolutely give 30 days and go (if you can afford it). Take the time to regroup after a difficult few years and hit the ground running in your new place.
Congratulations on the new job Thanks

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EarlyModernParent · 16/09/2018 09:30

Go to wimpy CEO armed with no more than 3 concrete, evidenced examples of problems the chaotic boss/ system has caused and how you have had to jump through hoops to overcome them.
Point out boss has said 'No niche cases'but other supervisor wants you back on them.
Tell wimp you need an organised way forward that helps everyone or it will have to be gardening leave, and you fear scapegoating. Don't leave wimp's office until you have got a plan in writing or agreement to gardening leave.
Line up a good employment lawyer, just in case.
(Familiar scenario to me- relative is charity sector veteran).

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buttheydo · 16/09/2018 09:31

THANK YOU!

Being unemployed for two months would decimate my savings (literally) and put me in a very difficult financial position.

Do you think there is a case to ask for gardening leave? Or would that be too pushy?

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Namechangingagainjustbecause · 16/09/2018 09:31

Option 2.

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SabineUndine · 16/09/2018 09:31

Option 2. I’m guessing your boss has been ‘spoken to’ and is trying to cover her back. Make sure that the CEO has a note of what you’ve just said here and your reasons for leaving.

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moleeye · 16/09/2018 09:31

Sounds dreadful OP 😔

I'd give them 30 days notice and not a second more! X

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bastardkitty · 16/09/2018 09:32

I would give 30 day notice. I'm assuming the CEO is in an ostrich position and won't offer a proper exit interview. In your shoes I would write a letter after leaving clarifying what the issues are and your frustration that you tried raise them but were dismissed/ignored. You don't owevthem this but it may help your successor. Good luck in your new post.

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UpstartCrow · 16/09/2018 09:33

Do 2 and cover your arse. Send an email listing all the above to the CEO when you leave.

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Singlenotsingle · 16/09/2018 09:33

So you've given 3 months notice? I don't think you can carry on like this for the next 3 months. (I used to work in the law and found some aspects were an absolute nightmare, full of gaslighting and bullying).

Tell your boss you're giving one month's contractual notice and put it in writing. Management always protect each others backs, so no point prolonging the agony by putting in a grievance.

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MissWimpyDimple · 16/09/2018 09:34

30 days notice.

I worked for one of these types. She will do her best to make you seem incompetent and anything that goes wrong in the next 2 months and longer will be traced to being down to you.

Is there any way you can start your new job early?

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MissWimpyDimple · 16/09/2018 09:34

And yes to sick leave. She is making herself the victim here. Don't let that happen!

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GrouchyPreggoLady · 16/09/2018 09:34

Oh absolutely do option 2 if you can afford to do it that way! 😊

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Sunflowersforever · 16/09/2018 09:36

As a CEO, my advice is for a low key exit. You've tried communicating and it got you nowhere.

Serve the 30 days notice, ask for workload exit plan to ensure a good handover.

Bring in nice cakes and biscuits every week for staff room and keep positive.

You can ask the CEO for an exit interview and give a calm and honest appraisal of issues there and they can act on it or not.

DO NOT get into confrontations or back and forth on who did what. Keep to the need for a 30 say exit plan.

You're done and nearly home free.

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GrouchyPreggoLady · 16/09/2018 09:36

Sick leave would still mean some money coming in though and tbh it sounds like you have good cause to take it!

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JennyHolzersGhost · 16/09/2018 09:37

As a regulated profession, the law is an area in which your reputation is particularly important to preserve. You simply cannot trust these people not to fuck you over and land you in shit that could potentially affect your reputation if you stay for any longer than you absolutely have to. Give your 30 days’ notice, do the volunteering, and make sure you’ve got alternative references in place just in case your employer builds up a list of formal ‘problems’ which could affect your reference from them.

You can’t trust these people, I’m afraid. Get the hell away from them.

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JennyHolzersGhost · 16/09/2018 09:37

And yes, I agree with Sunflowers - back away slowly, while making calming noises. Don’t kick anything off.

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