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My son was assaulted at school and I don't like how the school handled it. But AIBU?

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 16:40

My son is in year 7 so only a couple of weeks in.
Two things that could alter my reasonablility in what happened today
1- we're fresh out of Primary school, perhaps this is the norm for secondary school
2- I was horrifically bullied at school and beaten up regularly, I've no doubt this makes me extra jumpy with issues of bullying that may arise.

Today I get a phone call from pastoral at 1pm. They say my son has been punched in the face after he got into a 'fracas'. But they put ice on it and he's gone back to class.

That's it.

I ask is he ok? What happened? Who did it? How did the fight start? Is he ok to walk home? Will it happen again? How old was the kid?

They say they don't know. They just deal with first aid and to call his house.

I'm panicking because DS is a really gentle soul and quiet, least aggressive child I know and his kindness has always been pointed out by teachers at primary (again false sense of security?!).

So I'm calling the school for over an hour trying to get through to someone to find out wtf happened, and is my kid ok? I mean, aside from the ice on the cheek?!

Someone finally calls me back about 2.15pm, I ask what happened? They said they just spoke to my son and he got into a fight and the other child hit my son in the face, but they will get statements from everyone and find out what happened.
I asked if it would happen again? Is my son ok to walk home? Who is the other child?

They can't tell me who the kid is and they are going to investigate it.

I ask them if I can come and collect DS as I still don't know if he's ok (I wouldn't be if I'd just been punched!) and they said yes.

So I go down to the school, see DS waiting for me. I ask to speak to someone about what's happened.
In the mean time I talk to DS, I can see the bruises on his face (I've since taken photos) and ask him what happened.

DS was with a friend, child X called friend a pussy. My DS said "why are you calling him a pussy?"
Child X asks DS if he wants a fight? DS said no, Child X swings and DS. DS pushes him away, Child X falls down. He then gets up and punches DS 5 times in the face, a teacher pulls him off.

The friend DS is with has a black eye, earlier in the week Child X punched him and he's got massive bruising (DS says "worse than mine") and it looks terrible.

Half an hour passes and a woman saunters over. We go into a room, and she says "what do you want to know?"

I say I wanted to know what happened. DS has since told me, he also told me another child has been hurt. What happens next? Will the kid be punished? Will DS be ok to walk home safely in future?

She says "well first of all, your child got himself involved with this altercation. And I'll get statements from the adults who witnessed it to find out exactly what happened."

She's really rude and defensive with zero people skills. I'm feeling myself getting a panicky frustration and anger (I expect I was BU?!).

This conversation goes round in circles and I get absolutely no answers. I don't know how the child gets punished, I don't know how they stop it happening in future, I don't know if he's ok to walk home alone or if this kid is going to do it again.

All I know is they'll be getting statements.

I ask how the child will be punished? She said it depends what the statements say and what your son did.

She did admit that one of the teachers statements married up with what my son had said.

She was rude, abrupt and accusatory.
As I left I said she needed to work on her people skills. She said "I could say the same to you."

I walked out and just sat in the car and cried.
I'm a nurse if a child is hurt and a parent is irate, I do my best to calm them down and help them. That's my job.

Today my child was hurt, I wasn't reasurred in any way shape or form (on the contrary, the kid has form for assaulting children) and I've know idea if they contact me to discuss it further or what the fuck happens.

I'm just baffled. Is this normal for secondary?!
Is this how it is handled?

He was repeatedly punched ffs.

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Wheresthel1ght · 14/09/2018 16:46

Sorry but I think yabu. The school cannot comment until they have investigated and taken statements. They cannot and should not give you details of the other child or actions taken against him/her.

You need to calm down! You were unreasonable and I suspect more than a little rude yourself judging from the mania in your post which is likely to have caused the reaction in the staff member.

If your son was badly hurt they would have asked you to collect him. As it is you have probably just made him a target for his mum taking him home after a fight.

If what your son is saying is true (I say if as it may not be the full truth and he may have had a bigger part) then he did a good thing in trying to protect his friend. Hopefully the bruising will go down quickly.

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TeenTimesTwo · 14/09/2018 16:51

YAB understandably U.

For all the reasons Where said.

They need time to investigate. Taking statements takes time.
They will then deal with the offendor(s). If they didn't think your DS was fit to travel home in his usual way, they would have told you.

I'd be upset too if my DC were punched.

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 14/09/2018 16:51

It sounds awful- but the above poster is right. The school won't tell you any more than that your child was involved in a fight and they are looking into it.
It does sound as though there might be 2 sides to it, which there usually are. Your son's version could be a watered down version of him starting the fight by pushing the other child (hard enough for him to be hurt given that he fell down.
Fighting isn't normal at senior school, nor is it acceptable. Any more than it is at any other school. Luckily the school had adults witnessing what happened and so the appropriate punishments will be meted out in due course.

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BrightLightsAndSound · 14/09/2018 16:52

First of all you're being a bit OTT and also:

Your son initiated physical contact first based on your description of events

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hestia2018 · 14/09/2018 16:53

The school won’t give you the name of the other child, that’s standard. They also don’t have to tell you what sanctions there will be. But I don’t think they have handled this well. I would be incredibly upset too if my DS was punched in the face 5 times! I’d be expecting a meeting with the head of year to discuss what happened.

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Nicknacky · 14/09/2018 16:55

How can they tell you what punishment the boy would get (which they can’t anyway) before they have even found out what happened?

I do think you need to calm down. Would I be raging, hell yes but fights happen in school and hopefully it will be dealt with and be a one off.

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 16:56

Your son initiated physical contact first based on your description of events

Child X swung for DS and DS pushed him away.

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YeTalkShiteHen · 14/09/2018 16:57

I understand having to get statements to get to the bottom of what has happened today.

However, I cannot understand why a child who has lashed out twice in a week, once repeatedly punching another child in the face, wasn’t at the very least sent home to cool off.

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BrightLightsAndSound · 14/09/2018 16:57

Yes, swung for

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zzzzz · 14/09/2018 16:57

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hestia2018 · 14/09/2018 16:57

Your son initiated physical contact first based on your description of events
I read it that her son pushed the other boy away because he swung his fist at him?

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 16:58

hopefully it will be dealt with and a one off

I hoped so too. Until I found out that he had done it to another child earlier this week.
The school can't have dealt with it that well.

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sofakingg00d · 14/09/2018 16:58

Yabu

Are you seriously expecting all of the statements to be taken and the punishments given out in the 1hr 15 mins between the phonecall and you arriving at the school?

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zzzzz · 14/09/2018 16:59

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 16:59

Is swinging for someone not considered initiating first contact?!

He missed because my son pushed him away!

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Nicknacky · 14/09/2018 16:59

Op, I meant a one off with your son. That’s all you need to worry yourself about.

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 17:00

At no point did I expect, ask for, or even mention that I wanted all the statements written up and give to me in an hour and 15 minutes.

I wanted to know that my son was ok, that he was safe and wasn't going to get jumped on the way home from school.

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Sirzy · 14/09/2018 17:00

It sounds like you where rather rude to the staff member!

It’s understandable your worried but you need to give School time to find out what had happened. You have no right to know what punishment is given to any other child, or who they are either!

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Outnotdown · 14/09/2018 17:00

I think yanbu, absolutely not unreasonable at all. Don't the school have a policy about bullying, why didn't they give it to you.

Where was the reassurance in relation to the school's response to violence? I don't think you were out and I would be pursuing this further, and higher up if necessary.
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Outnotdown · 14/09/2018 17:01

Ott, not out

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 17:01

NickyNacky I see! Yes, definitely.
I have really really pushed it with DS that he is not to get involved with other people's issues. The way he helps is to get a teacher and inform them.

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Nicknacky · 14/09/2018 17:01

No, you asked (repeatedly by the sounds of it) what punishment the boy would receive, how do you expect them to know that at an early stage?

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YeTalkShiteHen · 14/09/2018 17:02

How do we know he wasn’t?

Well he wasn’t disciplined the first time, since he was in school to punch OPs DS.

I’m aware they can’t disclose names but there’s nothing stopping them telling OP the other child is not in school at the moment (in answer to her question about her son being safe).

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ButAIBUtho · 14/09/2018 17:02

Sirzy in the real world when someone is assaulted is the victim not well within their right to find out how the person is punished?!

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