My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

MNHQ have commented on this thread

AIBU?

To feel sickened that this man is being referred to in this way (WARNING UPSETTING CONTENT)

932 replies

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:21

This man raped a three month old baby boy to the point where the baby needed corrective surgery.

He is now in a women’s prison in Canada where he has beaten up a female inmate.

THIS is where self ID leads. Men like this being incarcerated with women and their crimes being counted as female.

torontosun.com/news/national/feds-deny-paying-for-convicted-pedophiles-implants

www.newwestrecord.ca/dangerous-offender-in-b-c-loses-appeal-for-day-or-full-parole-1.23279132

Go on, Mumsnet, delete me for deliberately misgendering a male baby rapist.

THIS.IS.A.MAN.

Perhaps this story will illustrate why feminists are so up in arms about self ID.

I would love to see even the staunchest anti-women transactivist tell me that this person is a woman and that they belong in a women’s prison.

OP posts:
bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:21
OP posts:
bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:22
OP posts:
JagerPlease · 18/07/2018 06:30

This is a really bad example to choose if you're trying to argue against self id, given that she would be classed as a woman even under the law as it stands now, and generally by the criteria people seem to set on mumsnet - ie she has female genitalia

Doesn't mean she isn't evil, she's just an evil woman

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 18/07/2018 06:30

We need to stand up with once voice and no longer tolerate this lunacy.

Women are socialized from birth to be people pleasers, polite, kind etc but we must fight that socialization and protest this pathological desire to appropriate women's bodies, words and spaces.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 18/07/2018 06:31

@JagerPlease Hmm she's not an "evil woman" she's an "evil trans woman".

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:32

Jager. How dare you refer to this baby rapist as a woman. This is a sick, violent MAN.

OP posts:
ThroughThickAndThin01 · 18/07/2018 06:32

Awful, just awful.

Booboobooboo84 · 18/07/2018 06:39

She’s a woman. A woman whose commited a disgusting crime. Your focusing on the wrong things here. What they self ID aspales in comparison to the seriousness of their crimes. Women are capable of extreme evil just like men.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 18/07/2018 06:39

Sick violent man. Not a woman. Ever.

This indeed is where the 'sex change' experiment has gone wrong.

Changing this person's 'sex' using hormones and surgery - still a violent man. Always will be a man.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 18/07/2018 06:40

She’s a woman. A woman whose commited a disgusting crime. Your focusing on the wrong things here

No - focusing on the right thing which is that this is a man.

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:42

No. He is a man. A woman did not rape a baby. A man did. How dare you.

OP posts:
strawberrisc · 18/07/2018 06:43

As someone who has worked with transitioning people can I just point out it’s a very difficult process. They’re not all evil rapists.

A rapist is a rapist.

ObjectionSir · 18/07/2018 06:43

Surely this Thing (I don't believe he/She should even be given the respect of being referred to as human, regardless of what gender they choose) should not be allowed near anyone, in prison or outside of it

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:43

Absolutely beggars belief that some people are so brainwashed they actually think this person is a woman.

OP posts:
CantankerousCamel · 18/07/2018 06:45

Please show me examples of women raping babies!

Men do it so often it’s no longer considered news. This story is only news because he’s in a female prison.

Seriously, WAKE UP

CantankerousCamel · 18/07/2018 06:46

Objection

Wtf.

So we no longer call men who commit crimes humans? What good is that going to do? We have to own the reality of the situation. The reality is Male violence.

Booboobooboo84 · 18/07/2018 06:46

You asked for my view I gave it. And yes I do fucking dare say she’s a woman. Because she is. You don’t have to like it. But she is.

JellyBears · 18/07/2018 06:46

I agree with you OP this man should not be in a women’s prison.

ObjectionSir · 18/07/2018 06:47

At her dangerous offender hearing, Desousa also admitted to having killed a three-year-old child at age 11, although he was never criminally charged.

Fucking hell.

MrsPear · 18/07/2018 06:48

I though my you had to have a penis to rape? Therefore only a biological man is only capable of rape? A woman such as Vanessa George is convicted of sexual assault as she used objects and filmed.

Am I wrong?

CantankerousCamel · 18/07/2018 06:51

Vanessa George placed objects next to and around babies (I think she also got a few to suck on them) in order to send them to her paedophilie boyfriend who had groomed her.

Hardly a good case.

Men rape babies often, it’s only when they kill them or maim them it becomes news.

Fucking Google it, you’ll get loads and loads and loads of news stories.

One woman does not a rule make (especially in those circumstances)

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:51

Booboo you are deluded and offensive. I am not engaging further with someone who has lost their grip on reality to the degree they believe a male who raped a baby is a woman.

OP posts:
ObjectionSir · 18/07/2018 06:51

So we no longer call men who commit crimes humans? What good is that going to do? We have to own the reality of the situation. The reality is Male violence.

Anyone who has raped a baby and murdered a toddler forfeits the right to be referred to as anything.

Whilst more violent crimes are committed by men, women are just as capable.

If we want equality we must recognise that goes both ways, women can be evil and violent too.

My point is that his gender is a moot point, he shouldnt be allowed near anyone.

ferntwist · 18/07/2018 06:53

You’re right OP. This is a violent, sick man. Shame on any posters correcting you. This shows not only that self-id is dangerous, but that legal sex change is wrong full stop. The Gender Recognition Act should be repealed. Anyone can live as they wish or call themselves whatever name they wish. But no violent male should be allowed in a women’s prison. How did we get to this?

CantankerousCamel · 18/07/2018 06:53

What about men who beat women to death?
Or rape children?
Or beat up grannies for a laugh with their mates
Or racists.

You literally CANNOT separate males from Male violence there’s too bloody much of it.

Men commit crime, men need to OWN that crime, not say ‘oh it’s because they’re not real.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.