My NDN and Parking

[MrsDylanBlue]

My NDN moved in a few months ago, I have seen them in the street and almost forced them to say hello - fine whatever I respect the fact they may want to keep themselves to themselves.

We have no ORP and it is an issue in our road and we get people from neighbouring streets also parking here.

NDN have a very tiny driveway which they sometimes park one of their three cars on (I have a small car and DH has a car but is only here on weekends).

When the NDN drive is empty (it’s a drop curb with no gate) we have always parked over it as sometimes there is just nowhere else to park.

Outside our houses (they are semi detached) there is enough space for two cars on the road, quite often they have taken to not leaving me enough room to fit my car on (and not block my elderly neighbours in the other side) and then moved forward when someone else has arrived home so monopolising all the off road parking directly outside the houses.

Last weekend DH parked slightly over their drive and they left a shitty note on his car. He went round and spoke to the lady and said just knock don’t leave a note and please could you just leave my wife enough space to park in the week, after all we have one car you have three.

This weekend they have taken up all the parking directly outside the houses meaning I have had to trek up and down the road with my weeks shopping and when we went Kayacking it was not greatly convinuent carrying them down the road to put on the roof of the car.

Do I go round again and appeal to their better nature or do I start parking my car in the middle of the two spaces to make a point - starting a potential war which I will probably lose as I have less cars than them

[MrsDylanBlue]

Sorry that was a long rant ...

[MrsDylanBlue]

Sorry monopolising the on road parking!

[AnathemaPulsifer]

If you're all parking on a public road you have absolutely no right to park on the road outside your house and it is absolutely not ok in any way for you to park across their dropped kerb. I doubt that was the answer you wanted, but there you are.

[Fruitcorner123]

i dont think i understand. Did you park blocking their driveway? I agree they could have knocked but it is unreasonable to block their driveway.

[AnathemaPulsifer]

No special right, I mean. They don't have to leave a gap for you.

[MrsDylanBlue]

I know I have no “right” but our old neighbours never used the drive and they don’t always either. TBF there is no law against parking over an empty drive.

We said sure we won’t park there if you can extend us the courtesy of leaving us a small space outside our house where possible.

Which they haven’t done,

[AnathemaPulsifer]

'Can you park over a dropped kerb?

This is one area that always causes controversy. Dropped kerbs are lowered sections of the pavement that allow easier access from the pavement to the road by wheelchair users, pushchairs and the visually impaired. Dropped kerbs are also often found outside of businesses and private residences for vehicle access.

The Highway Code's Rule 243 states that you should 'not stop or park where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles, or where it would obstruct cyclists except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.'

Parking a vehicle fully or partially across a dropped kerb is classed as an obstruction and either the police or local council can enforce the contravention. Based on the resources a particular authority has in dealing with this, attention will usually be focussed on offences that impede those with disabilities.

Complaints can be made to the local police via the non-emergency 101 number, although it's usually better to contact the local council first. Action from the council can only occur the it's the occupier of the premises involved who has complained.'

www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/legal-motoring-advice/2017-07/your-guide-to-parking-rights/

[Nanny0gg]

You are not allowed to block a dropped kerb.

[AnathemaPulsifer]

It's not a trade. You cannot park across any dropped kerb and if you don't have off-street parking you have to park wherever a gap is available.

[CluedoAddict]

You are totally in the wrong. You cannot block their drive ever. You have no right to any space in the road. It's first come first served.

[JeNeBaguetteRien]

We said sure we won’t park there if you can extend us the courtesy of leaving us a small space outside our house where possible.

YABVU
You shouldn't park across their driveway anyway, not something to be used as a gesture of goodwill.
Your DH should've gone round to apologise, not to ask them not to leave a note.

Maybe they would have parked one of their cars on the drive if they didn't think you would block it.

[Myneighboursnorlax]

YABU. You cannot block their drive. It’s completely irrelevant whether the old owner minded or not. You also cannot expect a space saved for you on a public road. You just have to take your chances like everyone else.

[Merryoldgoat]

You should never park over a dropped kerb, empty drive or otherwise.

Unfortunately on-street parking is first come first served. Inconvenient I know but it’s just how it is. Can you get your own drive?

[Maelstrop]

I hope this is a reverse, because saying you think it’s ok to park over their dropped kerb is fucking appalling. You have no right, I don’t care if legally you can, it just means you’re being a complete twat.

[MrsDylanBlue]

They aren’t disabled and they don’t have a pushchair.

Neighbours the other side also have one which they don’t mind us parking over - we have always all been cooperative both sides.

[Gazelda]

From their POV, they've moved into their new home and immediately discovered that it's dog eat dog where parking is concerned. So they've taken your lead and started playing the game.
You started this, you were the inconsiderate neighbours. I think you need to start making consolatory noises. Don't ramp up the conflict.

[MrsDylanBlue]

Well we have been parking over it for 13 years as do loads of other people in the street.

[MrsDylanBlue]

What I objected to was the note.

Come round and speak to us about it. They knew it was our car.

[Giraffey1]

You were very lucky with your previous neighbours but as others have said, you have no rights where on-street parking is concerned. Nor should you be blocking any of their drive. You will have to put up with things as they now are.

[CluedoAddict]

Can't you see you are in the wrong? I don't blame them for getting their own back.

[donquixotedelamancha]

TBF there is no law against parking over an empty drive. We said sure we won’t park there if you can extend us the courtesy of leaving us a small space outside our house where possible.

Are you on glue?

You threaten your NDN that you will block their drive if they don't leave a space in the public road outside your house and you think they are unreasonable to write a note?

Yes you will start a war of you keep doing this. Yes YABU.

[MrsDylanBlue]

We apologised and asked them, as a courtesy, where possible to leave us a space which they agreed to.

But this weekend they have taken up three spaces outside on the road and not even used or parked over their own driveway.

[Lj8893]

It doesn’t matter how long you have been parking over it, they now own the house and obviously are not ok with you parking over it so that is your problem, not theirs. It does sound like parking is a nightmare around there but again your problem, nobody else’s.

[FASH84]

Read the info again you can't block a dropped kerb for access to motorised vehicles either. You pay extra for a house with a drive as someone at some point has applied for permission paid for the right to drop the kerb and to have the work done. You have no right to block access to their private property which has been authorised by the local council. If you want parking outside your house pay for a drive.

[Myneighboursnorlax]

Your attitude is actually infuriating. Can you really not see that it doesn’t matter what you’ve done for 13 years with your old neighbour? The drive belongs to your new neighbours, and you must not park over it. If your old neighbour invited you in for lunch every day, would you be posting on here cross that the new neighbours aren’t doing the same?!