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Is lodger a CF?

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Ladiva1971 Wed 21-Mar-18 18:17:33

I have a lodger his rent includes all bills, however I went on holiday for 2 weeks and on my return he presented me with a £25 top up bill for the gas which he used for heating when I was away. I told him there is no way I am paying for the gas he used when I wasn't here. He says gas and electric is included, but my argument is that if I was on holiday the gas would not have been used so he has to pay it. AIBU?

TrollTheRespawnJeremy Wed 21-Mar-18 18:19:26

Well is gas and electric included in bills or not?

You can't change the rules to suit yourself.

SantanicoPandemonium Wed 21-Mar-18 18:20:00

Did he use £25 more then the normal bill or was it the Normal bill that you didn’t pay?

mojito55 Wed 21-Mar-18 18:20:04

Did the tenancy contract say "bills included" or "bills included when we're both at home"? YABVU confused

DairyisClosed Wed 21-Mar-18 18:20:23


Dungeondragon15 Wed 21-Mar-18 18:20:23

YABU. Unless you contract states that bills are included unless you are out of the house of course.

Userplusnumbers Wed 21-Mar-18 18:20:55

It's either included all the time, or none of the time. Definitely a CF here, not the lodger though.

ScreamingValenta Wed 21-Mar-18 18:21:01

I think YABU (sorry). If the rent includes gas and electric, he shouldn't have to pay extra for reasonable use. Assuming you are in the UK and the holiday was recent, it's been freezing cold so heating the house would be unavoidable.

SpringHen Wed 21-Mar-18 18:21:19

Bills are included in HIS rent, it is irrelevant whether you are there or not.

TopShagger Wed 21-Mar-18 18:21:28

Whut? If the agreement is that gas/electric is included in the rent then unless he's used an EXCESSIVE amount I can't see you having much of a case here. The fact that you personally weren't there is irrelevant, it's down to your agreement IMO.

If while you were away he took up welding as a hobby and used an unreasonable amount of energy you might be able to argue that's unreasonable but if that's just what he used your argument about not being there couldn't stand.

Eliza9917 Wed 21-Mar-18 18:21:34

If you didn't have a lodger and went on holiday your house would be empty.

Have u charged them rent?

If so (obviously you have) you need to pay the bills.

FleeceDetective Wed 21-Mar-18 18:21:49

Yabu, bills included means that.

restingbemusedface Wed 21-Mar-18 18:21:59

How can you not see YABU?? You can’t state bills included and then make him pay them separately because you were on holiday, and if that was the case you should’ve told him before you went

snickledon Wed 21-Mar-18 18:22:08

YABU! Bills are included. Is he only allowed to turn the light on when you are in the same room?

EyepatchOfTravis Wed 21-Mar-18 18:22:19

If bills are included then bills are included surely! YABU

Pickleypickles Wed 21-Mar-18 18:22:35

Was it £25 you didnt put on as you werent there or £25 extra because he went heating crazy when you werent there?

AnneLovesGilbert Wed 21-Mar-18 18:22:43

If it’s included, it’s included.

Did you tell him before you went that the terms of his tenancy agreement had changed as you were going on holiday?

Aeroflotgirl Wed 21-Mar-18 18:23:29

So I gather utilities should be paid by you all the time, regardless of whether you are there or not. Is this stipulated in the contract?

JeNeBaguetteRien Wed 21-Mar-18 18:24:24

Holy moly some people! YABVU

If lodger goes on holiday do they get a refund for bills? Thought not...

TheHodgeoftheHedge Wed 21-Mar-18 18:24:28

What the others have said. You are being Incredibly unreasonable.

Happymummy1991 Wed 21-Mar-18 18:25:20


Yesitsme1 Wed 21-Mar-18 18:25:21

But you've still been paid for his gas and electric if it's included in his rent. I'm assuming he had to top up a prepayment meter so he could use the heating which presumably you would have done if you'd been there (because he pays for those services via his rent) so he is out of pocket. The fact that you weren't there to share the use of those services is irrelevant and not his fault/problem.

Idontdowindows Wed 21-Mar-18 18:26:14

LOL, so he has to sit in the cold and dark when you go on holiday?

RestingBitchFaced Wed 21-Mar-18 18:26:28

No you are a CF

snewsname Wed 21-Mar-18 18:26:32


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