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AIBU to think that I need to start a thread about the Birmingham dialect?

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threeelephants Mon 12-Mar-18 21:50:21

I'm so annoyed lately at all of the threads belittling my accent/dialect. I'd like to describe it as snobbery but I actually feel it goes beyond that.

In Birmingham we say mom, not mum. It has been this way for at least a hundred years. It is not 'Amercanism', in fact it was us who took the word over there. Mum is a slang word, it isn't 'the correct term' in anyway-if you want to have a dig at me saying mom then you'd better be calling yours mother!

We eat nougat and pronounce it nugat (not nugget, like some of you seem to think). We also eat marshmellows...tbh I'd never noticed there was supposed to be an a in there!

We pronounce tooth with the shorter oo sound (like in book, look, foot etc).

We are not uneducated, nor are we all bloody working class!

And while we're here, dinner is a hot meal, doesn't matter what time of day you eat it, lunch is a cold meal in the middle of the day, tea is a simple meal at the end of the day and supper is a biscuit before bed.

The Birmingham accent/dialect is the closest in existence to how Chaucer/Shakespeare would have spoken. Which makes us more correct than most of you.

DalekDalekDalek Mon 12-Mar-18 21:52:54

How does speaking like Chaucer or Shakespeare make the Birmingham accent more correct that every other accent in the UK? You sound like you are being just as snobby as you are accusing others of being!

KarmaStar Mon 12-Mar-18 21:55:42

What are you actually wanting here OP?

Greyponcho Mon 12-Mar-18 21:56:36

I can just imaging Shakespeare saying “y’alllrite? Moy naymes Willyum”
That’s made me smile 😊
(Lived in Brum for a year, friendly city)

TheQueenOfWands Mon 12-Mar-18 21:58:25

I like the Birmingham accent. My cousins live there and after a day I find myself adopting it.

Accents make people sound more interesting. I have a strong Zummerzet accent and I'm very proud of it. I sound like a pirate, it's awesome!

threeelephants Mon 12-Mar-18 21:59:16

I'm wanting people to stop belittling my accent/dialect. There's been 3 or 4 threads in the last few days.

And in talking about historical correctness, which seems important to the posters that are screeching about mom being a modern American import.

DontDrinkDontSmoke Mon 12-Mar-18 21:59:25

I love a Brummie accent.

It’s beautifully drawn out (to my Scottish ears). Your phone bills must have been huge back in the pay by the minute days.

feral Mon 12-Mar-18 22:00:31

I'm a Brummy and the only thing you have correct in this post is the mom thing, though I would still spell it mum.

What's wrong with being working class? I'm pretty sure a lot of Brummies are!

ParadiseCity Mon 12-Mar-18 22:00:32

Keep on Brumming. Life would be dull if we all spoke the same. Words and dialects are fascinating to me.

threeelephants Mon 12-Mar-18 22:01:14

Lol dontdrink...that made me smile! Actually lots of us are of Irish descent, so we talk at 100 mph when chatting to family/friends!

VioletteValentia Mon 12-Mar-18 22:02:13

I’m a brummie lass and I don’t say “tuth”.

But yeah, I agree with you OP

GetOrfMyBin Mon 12-Mar-18 22:03:39

Greyponcho thank you for making me giggle grin

Fwiw I like the Brummie accept smile

GetOrfMyBin Mon 12-Mar-18 22:04:02

*accent (autocorrect fail) blush

threeelephants Mon 12-Mar-18 22:04:31

I'm proudly working class, feral, but I'm annoyed at my accent being considered lower class for having an accent.
And I can assure you everything I have written here is correct among almost everyone I know in this area. Dismissing me as incorrect is exactly the kind of snobbery I'm talking about. Talk how you like, and so will I, but don't try to put others down. That's my point.

ivykaty44 Mon 12-Mar-18 22:05:47

Love the Birmingham accent

It’s the oldest or one of the oldest dialects in the country

StripySocksAndDocs Mon 12-Mar-18 22:06:10

I imagine she want others to realise that aspects of her accent aren't 'wrong'.

Also I'm guessing that the Chaucer or Shakespeare comment stems from repeated comments seem on MN about certain pronunciations being 'wrong'.

The Birmingham accent would be an older language as opposed to the RP accent; which is a young accent. So more the birmingham accent is more original?

That said not sure we know if Chaucer or Shakespeare caslled thier others mom or not...

StripySocksAndDocs Mon 12-Mar-18 22:07:42

Well that took me an age to type!!

WorraLiberty Mon 12-Mar-18 22:08:08

I love Brummie accents.

For me, they're up there in my list of faves along with Geordie, Scottish and Southern Irish.

TheWickerWoman Mon 12-Mar-18 22:09:57

I’m a Brummie and we say ‘mum’ in our family. Not all Brummies say ‘mom’ in fact I’d say ‘mom’ is more Black Country.

bettinasofine Mon 12-Mar-18 22:10:00

I like my Glasgow accent (it's not that broad mind you)

It makes me laugh when women find a man's Glasgow accent attractive grin

Foxyloxy1plus1 Mon 12-Mar-18 22:11:36

Why is it snobbery to comment on accents? People do. They comment on Cockney, Yorkshire,Lancashire, Scottish,Welsh, Irish etc.

People will find some of them pleasant to the ear and some not so much. If anything, I think Yorks and Lancs accents attract more prejudice..

missyB1 Mon 12-Mar-18 22:12:14

Totally agree OP, the snobbery about accents and regional dialect on here is ridiculous. I love to hear the Brummie accent and also the Stoke one, brings back happy childhood memories.

ivykaty44 Mon 12-Mar-18 22:13:24

Shakespeare was from Stratford - not Birmingham

threeelephants Mon 12-Mar-18 22:13:52

It's not snobbery to comment, foxy. It's what's in the comments that's annoying me.
Stripysocks has explained my position perfectly, thank you.

Luckymummy22 Mon 12-Mar-18 22:14:17

Not Brum.........
But I lived in Black Country for a few years & used to just nod when my neighbours spoke to me 😂

I don’t really mind the Brummie accent - i’m used to it now

Really hate ‘Mom’ though. I’ll make sure i’m Mum to my kids.

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