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To jump to conclusions / to commit arson?

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:29

Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time poster - I have seen so much good advice on here and honestly I’m in a real pickle.

Currently in rented accommodation with one flat mate in a busy but, until now, very safe part of a major city. Been here for just over a year, get on fairly well with all neighbours, but we’re british so not too pally unfortunately. I ordered quite a few things on payday (Tuesday) to put together little gifts boxes asking my lovely girlfriend S to be my bridesmaids. A lot of these were small, inexpensive but emotionally relevant and personalised.

I was visiting family on Friday night so left at around 8am on Friday for work and wasn’t back until Saturday at around 3pm. My flat mate told me there were four parcels for me ‘by the front door’, by which she meant in our secure communal entryway. Parcels are often left here and we all tend to pop them in piles for different flats if that person has a few. This entryway is behind a locked, frosted door so no one walking past would have seen them. There are four flats in the building - flat 1 is a retired gentleman often home along and flat 3 is a new mother home on maternity leave, we get on very well with both and they have kindly said they will sign for parcels so we can get bigger ones delivered to our home rather then at work. I popped down to check and there were no parcels there - after looking around for a bit I opened the door to the cupboard where the energy meters are kept and saw two parcels addressed to me - both opened, both empty.

I am so upset that someone has done this. I have only managed to speak to the gentleman at flat 1, who was very upset as he had indeed signed for a parcel and left it where he normally would for me, and this has now happened.

I really don’t know what to do or think. I called 111 and they said there isn’t anything they can do as, although it’s a crime, they have no evidence as to who took them. It’s not a huge value which is missing but it’s really upset me.

On to the conclusion I have jumped to; I know it is possible someone could have come in - another delivery driver, a friend, an old tennant etc - but there have been a few other incidents which now seem suspicious. About a week ago I ordered 40 hangers from eBay and only 16 were delivered, and the box was opened. I assumed it was damaged in transit and went back to them. My flat mate had a dress go missing a few months ago, and the shop said they had posted it and it had been signed for by a neighbour, but again we assumed a mistake had occurred.

I suspect flat 2 is behind this. Flat 1 and 3 are very nice, neighbourly, we have exchanged Christmas cards / small gifts and talk casually fairly often. Not sure if relevant but they are also, from what we know, quite well off (nice cars etc). Flat 2 has been a bit stand offish the whole time we have been here, a bit awkward and doing strange things like standing in the hallway almost as if listening for us to come down?

What do I do?! I obviously don’t want to accuse anyone of anything with no proof, don’t want to loose the stuff I ordered and don’t want to not feel that my mail is safe! I’m worrying about things like bank statements, bills, Drs letters etc....

Thanks so much for reading, especially on a Sunday night!

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WishingOnABar · 25/02/2018 21:33

I may be missing something but if your flatmate saw you had parcels in the communal hallway, why did she leave them there knowing there have been prior incidences of parcels being opened?

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:36

Hi, thanks for your reply and great user name! She came back at around 10 at night after travelling with work with a large suitcase. Not ideal I know and she feels very guilty but it hadn’t occurred to either of us something like the would happen! The previous parcel (the hangers) wasn’t really torn open - the tape holding it together had almost lifted, enough for it to be opened but potentially could have happened from being bumped around a delivery van. Maybe I was being naive but I assumed then that was a mistake / accident!

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Scentofwater · 25/02/2018 21:39

Can you get a secure box for your mail? Wouldn’t solve the problem with parcels but at least put your mind to rest about bank statements etc. Or is there anywhere else you could get your post sent to? Your workplace? I know some wouldn’t let you but some might if they knew the circumstances. Or does your local post office/equivalent have a hold and pick up service?

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WishingOnABar · 25/02/2018 21:41

Hmm without proof you can’t do anything, are you ground floor? If so maybe set up some cctv or something on your door. I have a ring doorbell which captures all motion as well as rings and sends a notification over wifi. Alternatively speak to all of the neighbours about installing cctv near the door with everyone’s permission “due to parcels going missing”, it may be enough to deter an opportunistic thief among them?

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:42

Thanks for this :) that’s a good idea but all the usual post (letter)just comes through the main, frosted door, letter box. I could speak to my landlord about a secure box though. Thank you!

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strawberrysparkle · 25/02/2018 21:44

You need to fess up and you need to get an intensive driving course as previously mentioned to rectify this.

When you fess up they'll want to know how long until you can drive so you need a plan in place.

I'm sorry OP, it sounds like you're in a bit of a pickle through what seems like an honest and innocent thing. The only thing you can do now is to make it right.

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:44

No I know - that’s what’s really annoying me! I hate the thought of some buggar getting away with this!

I might have a chat about CCTV - if I can’t do anything about what’s happened, could be a deterrent going forward like you say.

Could I speak to the vendors about reposting (to my work, obviously!!) or would they say they delivered, so they’ve done what they promised?

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JellyBeanJugheadsSister · 25/02/2018 21:47

That is so annoying. Maybe arson is the way forwards LOL!

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ReasonableLlama · 25/02/2018 21:48

Strawberrysparkle wrong thread? Grin

What thread are you supposed to be on? Sounds interesting!

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WishingOnABar · 25/02/2018 21:48

Thry may have proof of postage since they arrived at your address safely Sad

As you say the gifts were inexpensive you will likely have to take the hit but I’d recommend getting them delivered to a more trustworthy place for now if you can (friend/ work / family)

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:50

Lol @jellybean maybe!! Sorry that is confusing in the title - I’m not sure how to handle / retaliate / passive aggressively tell someone I suspect they’ve nicked a personalised make up bag?!?

@strawberry sounds like great advice but maybe not what I need right now ;)

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:52

Thanks @wishing really appreciate the help but GRRRRR at this CF!!

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strawberrysparkle · 25/02/2018 21:52

Just realised I've posted on the wrong thread - sorry!!!

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MyKingdomForBrie · 25/02/2018 21:52

Sorry what are you planning to set fire to?! Don’t do that!!

You need to talk to your LL and set up a locked mail box maybe alongside the communal front door for your mail.

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:54

@strawberry - 😂😂😂 no worries!
@brie, also a great name! Not really

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 21:55

Sorry! Not really planning fire but upset / rattled / pretty angry and not really sure what to do. Isn’t inturrupting the Royal Mail a crime? How seriously would the post office take this? 1 parcel was RM, the other 3 were UPS etc.

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JellyBeanJugheadsSister · 25/02/2018 21:59

That’s definitely a crime! Hopefully you can catch these people!!

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EskiVodkaCranberry · 25/02/2018 22:07

Why would they leave the empty boxes in a.m. the cupboard Confused
Grab the boxes nip up to the suspected thief's house, knock and kill with kindness, 'any chance anything's happened to your post? Look at mine Shock'
They're not going to admit it but it might put them off scavenging in future

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GUMBYMUMBY · 25/02/2018 22:07

what does this mean? I have read it three times... what has it got to do with this?
'Been here for just over a year, get on fairly well with all neighbours, but we’re british so not too pally unfortunately. '

Are your neighbours not British?

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GUMBYMUMBY · 25/02/2018 22:09

Why have you said something about committing arson? Bit creeped out tbh

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Cakedoesntjudge · 25/02/2018 22:16

I'd be tempted to be incredibly passive aggressive - I'd knock on the door with the empty boxes and say what an above poster has suggested and then I'd add "the police said to check whether the other tenants had had any issues with their post before they come out to investigate. And by the way, you didn't take any of the other parcels for me in did You? There's two more boxes missing and the other neighbours haven't taken them so I presume you've been keeping them safe for me?"


Then smile sweetly whilst simultaneously holding eye contact in a slightly menacing way.


....I say all this but actually I'm a wimp and it probably wouldn't go any further than me imagining doing the above in my head!!

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 22:16

@jellybean thank you!
@eski I know! Only two of them though, two other parcels just totally missing. Really not sure what to make of this! That’s a really good idea - maybe I could ask if there’s been any ‘confusion’...
@gumby oh sorry! Nope we’re all british (as far as I know!) I just meant that we are all a bit reserved and keep ourselves to ourselves a little more then when I have lived in other countries and they tend to be a bit more involved in local life :) apologies for creeping you out! Not sure how to change - I’m a new poster, any tips? I know I ask MNHQ but not sure how to do that...email address?

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EbayIsKing · 25/02/2018 22:18

Hahahahah @cake! Don’t worry, fellow wimp here! I do want to say something, but they’ve been out all day.... I just don’t think someone would come in, nick half my parcels, open half and hide (badly!) the evidence, then run away! It has to be someone in the building, right??

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Viviennemary · 25/02/2018 22:20

I think if somebody signs for a parcel then they should take it in to their own flat and not leave it in a communal hallway that can be accessed by other delivery people and people you think might be thieves. Doesn't seem there is a lot you can do about it this time though.

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Viviennemary · 25/02/2018 22:22

I must say I was a bit confused about the intensive driving course. Should OP then deliver all parcels for the neighbourhood thus ensuring none are pinched.

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