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To not want a new garage leading onto my road?

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DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:07:17

I live on a private road which just has 4 houses on and some surrounding houses back onto it so have allocated parking spaces.

A house that backs onto our road has now started building a garage that they are planning to drive to using our road. At the moment they just have a back gate leading to our road.

My question is do they need planning permission for this? The garage is going to lead right out in front of a house doorway so surely this can't be right?

Diagram to follow!

EggsonHeads Wed 24-Jan-18 18:09:00

Will they need to drop the curb.

Bluelady Wed 24-Jan-18 18:12:51

They do need planning permission and have probably got it.

summerdreamz Wed 24-Jan-18 18:15:28

I imagine if they've started building, all planning permission has probably been granted.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds Wed 24-Jan-18 18:15:56

Who owns the road? If access was for walking to a gate and now they want to drive down the road, I'd imagine you could object if you own part of the road and they don't.

Bluelady Wed 24-Jan-18 18:19:12

It sounds as if there are already people driving down the road to the parking spaces. I can't see how a garage is any different.

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:20:03

Here is the promised diagram!

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:21:03

I have checked and there isn't any planning permission

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:23:25

The thing is their house is already on a main road which their current driveway goes onto. They will be using our cul de sac instead.
There is no pavement there so no need for anything to be dropped.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds Wed 24-Jan-18 18:24:46

Call the plannong dept tomorrow and query it.

aaaaargghhhhelpme Wed 24-Jan-18 18:24:50

No diagram for me. But I'm on the mobile. Maybe others can see it

Who owns the road?

user187656748 Wed 24-Jan-18 18:24:53

They probably don't need planning for the garage due to permitted development rules. They do need permission for a dropped curb.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar Wed 24-Jan-18 18:26:37

They need planning permission. If there's none recorded, contact the council planning department and they'll send someone out to have a look.

averylongtimeago Wed 24-Jan-18 18:27:11

If there is no planning it might be because it is within permitted development rules. They might have a vehicular right of way over your private road.

Or they might not.
Check your deeds and back with the planners.

ArnoldBee Wed 24-Jan-18 18:28:30

I lived on a private right that was owned and as such the owner could withdraw my access privileges at any time so we had to have an insurance policy to cover the value of the house. You need to find out if the road is owned or just unadopted.

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:30:12

It's on a newish build area where we weren't allowed to even change the colour of our front door so I would be really surprised if the layout can be changed like this. It's quite safe at the moment for the kids to play out there as we know everyone and it's an extra vehicle to go along that shouldn't be there.

user187656748 Wed 24-Jan-18 18:31:16

Are the people saying they need planning permission saying that because of a particular planning rule? Because you can build a garage without planning permission as long as its 2m away from the boundary and less than 2.5 metres high. I'm confused as to why people think planning is needed.

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:32:25

The plans say properties that have access to the road are jointly responsible for it. I don't know if this means because their back gate goes onto it that they are too. We always assumed it was vehicular access as wouldn't expect someone to chip into repair the road if they've only walked on it.

PeppaPigTastesLikeBacon Wed 24-Jan-18 18:33:08

They’ll need planning permission.

Our house is the same as the other person (our garage is at the back with a drop curb etc and use the road behind us to go onto it). Our neighbors didn’t get permission to have the same thing which is odd as ours is already like this.

You could call planning to see if you would need permission in your area as it could be area dependant

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:33:47

Is not 2m away from the boundary, it's less than that to the end house.

PeppaPigTastesLikeBacon Wed 24-Jan-18 18:34:48

^^ they didn’t get permission for the drop curb I mean. (As others have said you don’t always need it for a garage)

PurplePirate Wed 24-Jan-18 18:35:06

If they have no right of vehicle access the owners of the private can tell them they don't have permission to drive across it.

DiagramsRus Wed 24-Jan-18 18:35:29

That's why it's really unfair for the house nearest to it as they will have a garage practically outside their front door.

meredintofpandiculation Wed 24-Jan-18 18:37:38

Is the road adopted? Or is it privately owned? If privately owned, is it shared between you all or do you just own the bit adjacent to your house. If you own a bit of the road that they need to drive over, then check your deeds - they may say that specified neighbours have vehicular access, or they may say that they have pedestrian access.

You're allowed to extend your house (or build a garage) up to 25% of the original house area (15% if terraced) without planning permission. You could check with planning dept whether their garage is within that, and if not, query the lack of planning permission.

YearOfYouRemember Wed 24-Jan-18 18:43:59

No diagram showing.

Someone near me got into trouble for putting a gate in the fence which led onto a shared drive. People can't just do what they want.

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