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AIBU?

Are we being unreasonable or are neighbors?

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RogueRebel · 23/01/2018 20:11

DP has asked me to post this because he thinks we aren't and I just want a quiet life.
It's a long one as I don't want to drip feed.

I moved into my house (council tenant) 6 years ago. I keep myself to myself as best I can, say a polite hello in passing.
Couple live next door (couple A)homeowners, who have been doing up their house the whole time I have lived here, so I have heard the usual sounds that go alone with this. Not a problem at all for me.

About 2 years into living here I passed my driving test and got a car. It is roadside parking for me and a few houses while the rest have drives. (Couple A are roadside parking too) I quickly learned people get funny about parking! Couple A like to park their car right outside their gate and had got used to having an extra space for visitors outside my house. The lady opposite (lady B) is home all day and watches out of her bedroom window 90% of the time shouting to passers by and asking questions etc. If I couldn't park outside my house and tried to park outside her house (Lady B has a drive and doesn't own a car) legally away from her dropped curb, she would shout out of the window that she is disabled and needs the space directly outside her house free of cars. I would then move 5 houses down to another house with a drive and park legally outside their house with no problems. I did this twice before realizing it's not worth the trouble to park outside Lady B's at all. It upset my mum because that forced me to walk 5 houses to my house with two children under 6 leave them in the house alone and walk back to get shopping etc or leave them in the car and take shopping first. But as I told my mum no one owns the road it's pot luck with parking and to be honest it's not worth falling out with the neighbors about. I would even go as far as to ask any visitors to my house to park up the road and not to park in front of Couple A or Lady B's houses.

2 years ago my partner moved in with me and my two children.
We both had cars I explained to DP about parking and although he was confused as to how anyone including visitors to A & B could park outside our house while we couldn't get whatever parking was available on the road if it was free. I explained I like a quiet life it's not worth it for a 5min walk etc kids are older and can get out of the car on their own so it's not a problem.
We havent had any problems until about 6 months ago after DP had parked outside our house and as he was at our door getting his keys ready Couple A walked into their front garden with the male saying "if that ginger c* parks near me again I will spark him out" the Female was trying to shsss him and at that point they saw DP through the bush. And quickly entered their house.
DP found it funny and a bit weird, I was upset that obviously they were unhappy with us. I asked again that we are very careful with our parking and to make sure if we park outside our house that we don't go past the lamppost and not to provoke the neighbors. DP although unhappy that we are "pandering" to Couple A has done as asked to keep me happy.
We haven't spoken to them since and have gone down to one car between us.

Beginning of Jan I decided I wanted to finally get the house up together as I haven't decorated at all since being here. We have decided on a design and DP started putting a wooden wall up that we found on Pinterest. It is on the wall shared with couple A. We didn't think to much of the noise as couple A were banging all weekend doing work to their house. Nothing unusual for them.
At 3:15 while I was on the school run DP had a knock at the door from couple A they were both very aggressive effing and threatening to knock DP out because of the noise. DP pointed out that they had been banging a lot over the years and most recently the weekend and that we had ignored it. They then defended themselves by saying it's because they are bettering their house. DP explained he was decorating and doing the same. They continued to act aggressively and somehow DP found out their son (18months) was ill and trying to sleep. DP apologized and explained he couldn't have known that but if they had told him straight away he would have stopped work, he promised to stop work for the rest of the day but told them he would continue tomorrow. They weren't happy and more threats were made towards DP.

I've now had to phone the council to let them know what's happened and the council have asked if I'd like to make a complaint and open a case due to the aggressiveness of the interaction. I've said no as I don't want to escalate the situation. The council have confirmed I am allowed to decorate my house and have given me the times it is acceptable to work between during the day. Which we were already doing. They have made a note on my file in case the situation becomes heated again and more action is needed.

I'm now sat here upset that doing something to make me feel proud of my house has caused the horrible feeling of walking out of my front door in case anything kicks off. AIBU? Should I stop decorating and doing a job that will take 2days to complete? Working from 10-430.
DP is trying to convince me we've done nothing wrong?

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LittleFeileFooFoo · 23/01/2018 20:17

Yanbu, they sound awful. Park where you are comfortable, if that is in front of your house our else where.
Report then if they are aggressive.

What horrible people! I love red hair, my ds and dh are red heads. It makes me sad anyone would use that as a pejorative!

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Frouby · 23/01/2018 20:17

You have done nothing wrong except allow them to intimidate you. Park where you want. Tell them all that as you are parked legally it's tough shit.

Escalte to the council if necessary. Also involve the police if they continue to threaten and harrass you.

My mum was bullied years ago by people like this. She lived in a HA house on a street full of privately owned. It was horrible.

I hate bullies.

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battenbergbutterfly · 23/01/2018 20:20

Park where you want. They are bullies. Report their behaviour and don't allow them to intimidate you.

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TheHeartOfTeFiti · 23/01/2018 20:21

YABU to pander to these people!

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Esseyexxx · 23/01/2018 20:24

Sound like nasty pieces of work! You’re doing nothing wrong. Do not let them bully and intimate you! What more right to they have parking than you? None whatsoever. Park outside your house and decorate when you want :)

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FarmerSee · 23/01/2018 20:26

Back up your DP. The reason these people are bullying you like this is because you've pandered to them over the years with the parking. You're a soft touch.

Park outside your own damn house. Decorate your own damn house. And open up a case against your bulky neighbours.

You gave as much right to enjoy your home as much as they do. Without being shouted and sworn at!

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FarmerSee · 23/01/2018 20:27

*bully neighbours!
(No idea if they're bulky or not Grin )

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Bluelady · 23/01/2018 20:28

Vile neighbours. Park outside your house and enjoy your home.

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potoftea · 23/01/2018 20:31

You've been way too obliging. It's time to be assertive and park legally where you want. Look at it as good example to your children on how to deal with bullies.

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Idontdowindows · 23/01/2018 20:31

Stop pandering. Park legally, do work on your house.

You don't have to curtail your life for them. Live.

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Laiste · 23/01/2018 20:33

If you allow yourself to be treated like a doormat then people will do just that. It hasn't got you anywhere trying to placate everyone.

Park where you like if it's legal and tell the neighbors to fuck off with their threats or you'll call the police.

Let your DP off the leash.

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shouldwestayorshouldwego · 23/01/2018 20:34

Speak to them (if you are able to) and say that the council have confirmed decorating & car and that they have asked you if you want to open a grievance but you wanted to talk to them first and make sure that all was ok now as they wouldn't want to have to report a neighbour dispute if they ever wanted to sell would they .

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Ladymadness · 23/01/2018 20:34

Stop pandering to these bullies !
Op you need to stick up for yourself i know its easyer said than done but sometimes you have to fight (not physically) for a peacful life. Back up your dp and if they knok the door ignore them. If they become aggressive call the police. They sound like utter twats. Wine

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Coloursthatweremyjoy · 23/01/2018 20:35

You have given them an inch OP and they are taking a mile. Your partner is right YANBU.

You are 100% entitled to park where you want as long as it is legal. Who cares what they have "got used to". We recently moved here and our neighbours had become used to parking in a space that we actually own. Well, now they are getting used to that space being used by me. They aren't best pleased by hey ho.

Do the DIG you want, your DO was more than accommodating but he shouldn't be again.

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Coloursthatweremyjoy · 23/01/2018 20:36

DIY ffs

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Tapandgo · 23/01/2018 20:38

*farmsee = totally agree with you.
OP - This couple are bullying you and getting their own way. Don’t let them anymore. Also = I wouldn’t let the other neighbour have her way either. I’d always avoid neighbour confrontation if I had a choice. These inadequate primitives are controlling your life and dictating how you live in your home. They have no right to do it - none at all.

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MavisPike · 23/01/2018 20:39

You sound lovely neighbours
I'd park the nearest to my house I could
Owning your house does not top trump renting
Good on your partner

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astoundedgoat · 23/01/2018 20:55

I'm unclear on something - are you saying that you don't use the space outside your house, and you leave it vacant, because occasionally your neighbours use it? You need to stop that right away. I see your point about Lady B. Some battles aren't worth it, but the space outside your own house is a different story.

As for the banging, you were completely reasonable and they were awful. You also did the right thing by reporting it to the council and having them make a record of it. You carry on being the nice guy, but if they kick off again, you have a paper trail, so to speak.

Good luck!

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WhatchaMaCalllit · 23/01/2018 20:56

100% agree with FarmerSee on this one.

  1. Park where you like and is convenient for you to park and don't pander to the neighbours any longer. You have as much right to park on the road as anyone else, including people who don't live on the road!!
  2. Do whatever home improvements you and your DH see fit and if these neighbours complain again log the complaints but don't rise to their shouting and aggressiveness. Be super calm and even talk quieter than you would normally do if they start shouting.
  3. Back your DH up on this.


Enjoy your home and don't let anyone interrupt that enjoyment!
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RogueRebel · 23/01/2018 20:57

Thank you for your replys I knew I was pandering but it was started while living alone and I didn't want to cause issues.

I have suggested to DP about installing a CCTV camera. They are bully's and far too aggressive - trouble is if Couple A guy starts anything I know my DP will finish it. I can honestly say I have never seen him angry or aggravated but he is ex army reserves and works part time as a head door supervisor (bouncer but he hates that term because of the 90% in the role that are unprofessional) and has training to restrain and protected himself.
(It's very entertaining while on the school run together as he can point out the teachers who have been removed from his venue for being a little too drunk) But without proof that anyone else has started anything I would worry that it's 2/3 against us depending if lady B is joining in against us or just DP if DP is home alone or with the children which he is while I am at work.

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DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 23/01/2018 20:59

My experience with bully neighbours is that the only language they understand is you standing right back up them. You don’t need to be aggressive. You can be totally reserved and polite but stand your ground and don’t engage in silly games. Don’t get drawn into discussion with them. If they knock the door, ignore it. Just park as you need to. And record everything. Times, dates, incidents, and photos of necessary.

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DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 23/01/2018 21:00

Tell your DP that under no circumstances is he to even speak to your neighbours.

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Sarahjconnor · 23/01/2018 21:01

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WineAndTiramisu · 23/01/2018 21:02

Park where you like, do all the DIY you want and if there are any issues, video/record them and call the police. Being nice hasn't helped you at all, they think they can push you around and you'll just take it. Prove them wrong

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DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 23/01/2018 21:06

Totally agree with sarah, politeness/kindness is weakness in their eyes.

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