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Argos/Sainsburys - Scrooging bastards!

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Ruffian Wed 13-Dec-17 17:05:06

Ds is working at Argos who apparently are now owned by Sainsburys. He gets less than minimum wage due to being 18 despite being expected to everything that an older person would be doing.

He has been put on the rota to work Boxing Day 7 hours. For this he will get time-and-a-half pay so it works out as an extra £20 for coming in on one of the most important public holidays of the year.

AIBU to think this is taking unacceptable advantage? Surely it should be double pay at least??

nancy75 Wed 13-Dec-17 17:06:28

I’m surprised he is even getting time & a half, most tight bastard retailers now only pay single time for any & all bank holidays

outofmydepth45 Wed 13-Dec-17 17:06:31

Sounds standard, sucks but standard

Sirzy Wed 13-Dec-17 17:07:46

Sounds pretty normal and I assume that is what is in his contract?

It’s shit but it life in the retail industry.

Whinesalot Wed 13-Dec-17 17:08:00

Yep I've know retailers that only pay normal pay.

It does suck.

ALemonyPea Wed 13-Dec-17 17:09:18

Sounds about right for retailers.

singingdetective Wed 13-Dec-17 17:13:24

Lucky him, I've worked retail most of my life and have never been paid extra for working holidays, including Boxing Day and New Year's Day.

Awwlookatmybabyspider Wed 13-Dec-17 17:13:39

It sucks period that those under 21 or is it 25 are expected to exist on less than the minimum wage which in itself is a joke.
I wouldn't mind if theyou didn't have to do as much work.
It should be out lawed

BearSoFair Wed 13-Dec-17 17:17:45

Pretty standard. Welcome to retail!

I work for a major high st chain as well, also paying minimum wage for every age bracket, except we don't get time and a half for bank holidays. So it could be worse! It is a pain though, especially for the younger staff who have the exact same responsibilities but get paid a lot less.

dontquotem3 Wed 13-Dec-17 17:20:32

I have just resigned this past week.

RaspberryRipple63 Wed 13-Dec-17 17:26:37

When I used to work in an off licence about 16 years ago,I was the only one willing to work New Year's Day as it meant I'd get Boxing Day off. I got paid the standard rate,despite it being a bank holiday,not double time or even time and a half tight bastards

Ruffian Wed 13-Dec-17 17:27:00

Why are they allowed to get away with this shit? The whole point of bank holidays was that they are exceptions and therefore should be paid as such.

dementedpixie Wed 13-Dec-17 17:29:36

A lot of places just lump bank holidays in with holiday entitlement and they are treated like any other holiday. Dh doesn't get paid extra and if he wants a bank holiday off he has to book it off.

dementedpixie Wed 13-Dec-17 17:30:17

There is no legal entitlement to get paid extra for them

stickytoffeevodka Wed 13-Dec-17 17:31:10

They're not an exception in retail. People expect shops to be open everyday therefore they need to be staffed everyday.

He's lucky to get time and a half - most retailers don't pay any extra for bank holidays.

Ecureuil Wed 13-Dec-17 17:33:29

I worked in retail when I was a student. Once worked Christmas Eve, Boxing Day, New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day for not a single penny extra.

crazycatgal Wed 13-Dec-17 17:33:38

I used to get normal pay on boxing day, new years day etc when I worked in retail.

Blackteadrinker77 Wed 13-Dec-17 17:37:06

Are you sure he is getting time and a half?

That is unheard of in retail these days.

Hassled Wed 13-Dec-17 17:37:44

Years and years ago (the 80s) I worked in a shop during University holidays and things like New Year's Day were triple pay. Times have certainly changed - I can't believe some places just pay standard wages for bank holidays etc.

PyongyangKipperbang Wed 13-Dec-17 17:38:17

Is he on a 0 hours contract? If so remind him that it goes both ways......

www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4469

DubaiismyBlackpool Wed 13-Dec-17 17:38:37

Its pretty good to get time and a half, most don't get any extra.

My XH used to work as a security guard, the only 'extra' he ever received was a turkey at Christmas. Not a particularly nice or big one. And he worked 12 hour shifts for minimum wage.

Ruffian Wed 13-Dec-17 17:39:13

Presumably it's the lack of a union. I worked numerous bank holidays when I was with Royal Mail, we got double-time as standard.

BearSoFair Wed 13-Dec-17 17:40:12

They're normal trading days in retail, particularly larger companies. It's probably in his contract that he has to work a set amount and book ones he wants off out of his holiday allowance. Where I am we all have to do at least half of them over the course of a year.

Ruffian Wed 13-Dec-17 17:40:38

He's not on a 0 hour - they've tinkered with their contracts so they can't be accused of giving 0 hours, instead they give 6 hours. Excellent. hmm

OliviaStabler Wed 13-Dec-17 17:41:57

The whole point of bank holidays was that they are exceptions and therefore should be paid as such

Not anymore. Now the Minimum Wage has and will be hiked so high, retailers must balance those pay costs versus profits. In the future, I bet no prime days are paid for with any premium.

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