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HarrietKettleWasHere Mon 11-Dec-17 14:48:36

And say, she's contracted to work for 8 hours a day, on a salary and not an hourly rate, but you come home on occasion 15-30 minutes early, and say 'feel free to go!' Or, if she says 'is there anything else I can do for you?' And you say 'no, all fine, see you tomorrow!'

Would you then tell her that you are going to be taking those 'early finishes' from her final payslip?

What about if the contract says '1 nights babysitting shift per week of approx 3 hours, to be agreed in advance. However sometimes we may not use these'.

Would you then expect to subtract the weeks not used, even if the nanny was available to babysit, against the holiday the nanny has outstanding?

mousemoose Mon 11-Dec-17 14:49:08

No and no!

mousemoose Mon 11-Dec-17 14:49:36

That is mega tight. Has someone done this to you?

wherethevioletsgrow Mon 11-Dec-17 14:49:39

No, I would not. I would also pay for babysitting separately if it was not a regular or a certain thing.

MyKingdomForBrie Mon 11-Dec-17 14:49:56

God no. Whoever has done that is very wrong.

Notonthestairs Mon 11-Dec-17 14:50:16

What mousemoose said.

lastqueenofscotland Mon 11-Dec-17 14:50:29

God no

wizzywig Mon 11-Dec-17 14:50:43

No thats really tight

mando12345 Mon 11-Dec-17 14:50:51

That's horrendous and no to all those questions.

StealthNinjaMum Mon 11-Dec-17 14:52:14

Definitely not. That's not normal.

When I worked in an office I was usually allowed to finish early on Xmas eve. They didn't take it from my salary.

HarrietKettleWasHere Mon 11-Dec-17 14:52:37

Yes. I left my nanny job on Friday. I'd been there four months and taken 2.5 days holiday (plus worked overtime but I doubt I'll ever see any remuneration for that) so clearly I'm owed holiday pay in my final pay check. Previous employer is refusing to agree the amount because of these occasional early finishes and unused babysitting shifts (although these were fulfilled on many of the weeks I worked for them, and I never said I was unavaiblle to do them)

LittleBirdBlues Mon 11-Dec-17 14:53:04

Certainly no to your first sample, that is ridiculous ad exploitative.

Regarding the babysitting I agree with pp. Thus should e done on an ad hoc basis where the nanny can of course say no.

If you require the nanny to be available at Specific times, you need to pay for that. You can't just ask her to be available for nothing.

Im guessing you are the nanny here?

Whitecurrants Mon 11-Dec-17 14:53:34

These are the same employers you asked for advice on dealing with back in November?

LittleBirdBlues Mon 11-Dec-17 14:53:51

Sorry x post with op

Darlingsof Mon 11-Dec-17 14:55:26

Some people are just mean and petty but it will come back and bite them on the arse one day. You treat people like that and it will come back on you some day...

ArcheryAnnie Mon 11-Dec-17 14:58:08

Your employers are taking the piss. You should be paid for those times.

HarrietKettleWasHere Mon 11-Dec-17 14:59:13

I'm waiting for her to tell Nanny paye what hours/holiday I am owed so I can get my final pay. I tracked and calculated these for her. But instead of agreeing, she's claiming I need to subtract early finish times (of course I have not tracked every time I leave 15 minutes early; who would?!) and the weeks they did not use their babysitting shift. I've pointed out the times I've worked extra for no pay, but she's still insisting there are hours to be subtracted.

I need the money as it's nearly Christmas. So I'm just wondering what my next move should be.

FluffyWuffy100 Mon 11-Dec-17 15:04:20

No and no!!!!!

jennawade Mon 11-Dec-17 15:04:56

this is awful.

BUT - if you can come to a compromise with her it will be easier and less stressful? Am not advocating her approach but sometimes the path of least resistance is best?

Prepare a written schedule of the extra hours you have worked - totalling it up.

Then maybe agree to reduce it by a certain amount as a goodwill gesture - so that she feels some of her 'discount' has been applied?

If you cannot reach an amicable solution and you have a written contract with her - then I would speak to someone at Nannypay? If they can't help then maybe try the Citizens Advice Bureau?

friendlycat Mon 11-Dec-17 15:06:10

That is an absolute disgrace. They will be getting through quite a few nannies if that is how they treat them.

Backingvocals Mon 11-Dec-17 15:07:01

God that's grim. Your employers are awful (you prob know that already sad).

Clandestino Mon 11-Dec-17 15:07:16

No, you have a contract, they need to stick to it.
It was her decision to let you go earlier. If my employer lets me go earlier because they don't need me here (dream on), I wouldn't expect them to take this off my wages.

antimatter Mon 11-Dec-17 15:07:32

no and no, and I would tell her I am going to take it to court with her if she subtracts any money from my final pay
she is trying you on!

Viviennemary Mon 11-Dec-17 15:07:37

They are totally in the wrong. If you're contract says you finish say at 5 pm and they let you go early of course that shouldn't be deducted from your wages. And same with babysitting when you were available that was up to them whether you were asked to or not. Especially when you worked extra for no pay.

gurteenKnowledge Mon 11-Dec-17 15:07:42

Not unreasonable. Your ex-employer's a fucker.

Our nanny's on a salary. With this being the run-up to Christmas she's had the benefit of both early finishes and lots of overtime (at our agreed rate). For example, we'll pay for a Friday even though she worked a half-day and then pay overtime for babysitting on a Saturday night or full day + overtime if she starts late and finishes late.

Sorry, I have no advice but more of a reassurance that not everyone works like this. Salaried hours are a bare minimum for us. This would never be reduced. We'll be paying her full salary over Christmas despite us being out of the country and he working about 2 of her contracted hours.

We value her. We trust her with our children!

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