I appreciate that this goes over ground that was covered in threads from the last couple of days. Apologies for that. But I really do feel as though I have fallen down some kind of Alice in Wonderland style rabbit hole!
I mentioned this article about Labour MP Caroline Flint to some friends today - saying I thought I was pleased that someone was raising girls' rights in the trans debate following the Top Shop changing room furore.
//www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/caroline-flint-girls-rights-must-not-be-forgotten-in-the-trans-debate-a3696461.html
One of my friends responded by saying that there was no dichotomy between girls'/ biological women's rights and trans rights. In her view this is because anyone who identifies as a trans woman is a woman and to suggest otherwise was incorrect and an insult to the trans community.
I responded by saying that while I had no problem with someone who has been formally diagnosed with gender dysphoria and who is in the physical process of transitioning between sexes sharing a swimming pool changing room with me, I might not feel as the same about a man who had simply identified as a woman but had made no physical changes or undergone a formal diagnosis.
I argued that it was my right to feel like this. However I was told by another friend - this time male - that this view was bigoted.
Apparently although I have a right to object to someone who identifies as a woman but who isn't in transition, using a space traditionally reserved for females, I would be wrong to do so.
These are all intelligent people for whom I have a great deal of respect.
I'm unsure how they have come to these views but feel I must have missed some kind of intellectual newsflash down the line as I do not feel the same.
I can't understand why the women particularly - were seemingly unable to consider how that how we vital it is that we hold up any reforms that could impact on our fragile and hard earned rights to intense scrutiny.
I guess I was wondering if someone help me find the words and arguments to allow me disagree with them gracefully and in such a way that limits the chance of me being denounced as a bigot!
AIBU?
to wonder if the world has gone a bit mad!
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