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To hate the now common usage of "santa"

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Creambun2 Fri 17-Nov-17 19:04:41

Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

Battyoldbat Fri 17-Nov-17 19:07:16

Meh, doesn’t bother me. Santa Claus derives from sinterklaas which is Dutch, so not really American anyway.

AfterSchoolWorry Fri 17-Nov-17 19:09:34

Father Christmas sounds impossibly stuffy. The kind of entity who might bring an abacus, spinning top and and orange.

In Ireland we have Santy, he is gratuitously generous!

DorothyHarris Fri 17-Nov-17 19:09:41

I'm 31 and in our house it's never been Father Christmas, always Santa and sometimes Santey but I am in the NE 😀

Blankscreen Fri 17-Nov-17 19:09:45

Yes im with you I refuse to say santa and correct my children,.to say Father Christmas

dementedpixie Fri 17-Nov-17 19:09:56

Always been Santa in Scotland so not a bloody Americanism. Same stupid thread every year!

Notreallyarsed Fri 17-Nov-17 19:11:22

Santy here too and I’m Scottish. Father Christmas is the bloke in the Raymond Briggs books

inchyrablue Fri 17-Nov-17 19:12:11

^ what demented pixie said. Santa or Santee. Same difference and not bloody American.

Creambun2 Fri 17-Nov-17 19:12:12

No it hasn't always been santa in Scotland actually.

TrojansAreSmegheads Fri 17-Nov-17 19:13:34

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HelloFreedom Fri 17-Nov-17 19:13:44

Vulgar? It comes from Saint. As in Saint Nicholas. How is that in any way vulgar? You've baffled me.

OytheBumbler Fri 17-Nov-17 19:13:58

Well, I’ve always said Father Christmas in the NW and have to correct my dc when they say Santa.

And I do.

Every. Time.

hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea Fri 17-Nov-17 19:14:25

It's not an americanism, vulgar or otherwise. Santa Claus= the anglicisation of the dutch Sinterklaas, short for Saint Nicolas.

AnneLovesGilbert Fri 17-Nov-17 19:15:12

Santa Claus is older than Father Christmas.

Call the dude what you want but Santa Claus is as much an American import as Halloween. I.e. Not at all.

OhPoop Fri 17-Nov-17 19:15:16

Saint Nicholas, you can see why there is both Father Christmas and Santa. Although it’s a defo Father Christmas on this house although he has been known to lazily sign presents FC or F. Xmas to my kids! shock

FeelingAggrieved Fri 17-Nov-17 19:15:25

Santa's been used for YEARS!

AnneLovesGilbert Fri 17-Nov-17 19:15:40

Santa Claus is older than Father Christmas.

Call the dude what you want but Santa Claus is as much an American import as Halloween. I.e. Not at all.

daisypond Fri 17-Nov-17 19:16:12

I think sometimes it's regional. I'm 50, and my grandparents were in the North East and they always said Santa when I was a child.

meditrina Fri 17-Nov-17 19:16:14

It's because Father Christmas is an incarnation of the pagan Green Man, who belongs to Yule not Christmas.

Santa is the Christian version, and therefore dominant in the more observant communities (plus those for whom Xmas is a complete import, as they tapend to take the US version)

FizzyWaterAndElderflower Fri 17-Nov-17 19:16:19

I use both. Not something I'm going to get worried about - depends which scans best in a sentence.

LizzieSiddal Fri 17-Nov-17 19:16:40

I don’t like it either. Santa sounds too familiar fgrin.

My dds always said Father Christmas.

MadMags Fri 17-Nov-17 19:16:49

Vulgar Americanism? I’m embarrassed for you.

He’s never been Father Christmas in Ireland, thank fuck.

Notreallyarsed Fri 17-Nov-17 19:17:04

I’m 35 and always known him as Santy

Cel982 Fri 17-Nov-17 19:17:08

"Vulgar Americanism"? hmm You do know the origin of the Santa Claus legend, don't you?

I bet you don't let your kids 'do' Halloween either wink

meditrina Fri 17-Nov-17 19:17:25

"Santa Claus is older than Father Christmas"

Probably not, though I think the exact chronology of early paganism isn't as well known.

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