To guess a 15 year old at the age of 19 because she was married, not because he was 15? I don’t understand the outrage. They were both teenagers and it was just a snog? Even if it was a 19 year old man kissing a 15 year old it’s not that bad? Obviously entirely different if there was any hint of coercion, but there doesn’t seem to be in the Demi Moore situation
Wrong that she was married? And the focus seems to be on the ages, rather than that she was married? And that the ages aren’t really significant given they were both teenagers and no sex took place? Just kissing?
Applying the law in the UK now, it would be considered more serious than someone under 18 kissing a 15 year old. She was also arguably in a position of responsibility towards him as an adult working on the same job as him. So, if it were to happen today, in the UK, there would be consequences. Much like the Adam Johnson footballer case. Demi Moore knew exactly how old he was too, given the circumstances.
In 1982, presumably in the US, I have no idea of the legality. Morally she's in the wrong on several counts - he's a child, she's married and an adult. It's grim however you look at it. The fact he seems pleased is not really the point.
I think of myself and my friends as a 19 year old and couldn’t imagine any of us having the slightest interest in a 15 year old boy. It’s creepy. It’s creepy either way round. 19 is miles away from 15 in terms of maturity, emotional development etc.
I dated a 19 year old when I was 15 (fairly chastely but there was some snogging) without objection from parents or anyone else. If it was suddenly dredged up and he was given a hard time now on the basis of today's altered mores, I would be vociferous in his defence.
Coercion and abuse of power is always wrong, of course, but retroactive moralising is a different game altogether.
I would be equally vociferous about not letting my 15 year old DS or DD go out with an adult now.
I’m just curious as I had a 19 year old BF at the age of 15 and I’ve never thought it was an issue? But now I’m wondering if there was? My parents positively encouraged the relationship and it wasn’t seen as odd at all. I don’t understand the issue if there was no sexual contact. However, I totally get it if she was in a position of authority over him in a work capacity. That may be the crux here that I’m missing.
I’m just curious as I had a 19 year old BF at the age of 15 and I’ve never thought it was an issue? But now I’m wondering if there was? My parents positively encouraged the relationship and it wasn’t seen as odd at a
So that's two of us then.
I've thoughtful about this recently and it obviously seemed totally fine to everyone at the time.
It's equally obvious that it's not fine now.
How you consider whether it's okay in a space outside of time and society, I have no idea.
But you can't bludgeon people retrospectively for things that were tacitly condoned at the time, I think. We can only learn lessons and evolve as a society.
He may have felt coerced or something if she was more senior or had a greater position of responsibility? But from the video it doesn’t seem like it he appeared coerced? It just seems like two teenagers mucking around.
Absolutely nothing wrong with this. Christ, it's not like until your 16th birthday you're a child and on your 18th birthday you're suddenly an adult. They're all teenagers and obviously there are grey areas but tbh I wouldn't even consider this to be a grey area...
(Coercion is a totally different thing, but just having an age gap does not mean coercion and it's laughable to imply that it does).