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4seasons Mon 06-Nov-17 14:21:55

My daughter has let her house whilst she's working abroad. The area is 24/7 parking permits and she left quite a few for her tenants to use. Recently she found out that the permits had all been used up ( tenants have had to buy extra ones). She thought this was odd as neither tenant has a car so queried this. Apparently one of the tenants said that her " family" had helped her to move in and had stayed there for " a couple of weeks "!!! I am now concerned about the wear and tear on my daughters things ( as is she !).... almost all the furniture , cooker , washer/ dryer etc was brand new . Also , I don't know how things stand legally having " family " to stay for an extended period of time. My daughter expected the tenants to have the odd friend etc to stay at weekends but " several weeks " ??!! What do you think and should we be doing anything about it ?

HarrietKettleWasHere Mon 06-Nov-17 14:25:27

The tenants are renting it.

This means it's their home.

Of course they can have people to stay, it's not a boarding house, and I'm afraid who they invite over to stay and use the washing machine is none of your business.

Some tenancy agreements have a clause to say the owner should be notified if guests stay longer than three months or so. Sounds like the tenants had family to stay for s couple of weeks.

Not a big deal. I'll repeat: it's their home for the time being.

ChelleDawg2020 Mon 06-Nov-17 14:25:36

It depends on the tenancy agreement (she did have one, right?). If there are limits specified on how many guests can stay and for how long then your daughter may have a case. If it's not mentioned, then there's little you can do. Tenants are allowed "fair wear and tear" on carpets, furniture etc. for the duration of the tenancy - at the end of it it will be up to your daughter and the tenants to reach an agreement as to whether such wear and tear has indeed been "fair", and make deductions from the deposit if necessary.

Birdsgottafly Mon 06-Nov-17 14:29:33

I agree that it is their home.

If it isn't going to be often,then it evens out the same as someone having a babysitter sleep over.family at Christmas, friends visiting etc.

A couple of weeks isn't an extended period.

MrsPear Mon 06-Nov-17 14:29:42

Or it could be that they are sub letting or having permenant extra family members living there. Nothing you can do tbh. If you do inspection they will just make sure that there are the correct number of beds on show - not that I have done that. wink

LIZS Mon 06-Nov-17 14:32:36

Unless they are over-occupying in breech of the tenancy agreement ( ie. It has become a hmo) there is little you can do. Wear and tear is normal for a rental and you/she need to become less personal about the decor and furnishings. Are periodic inspections within the agreement.

4seasons Mon 06-Nov-17 14:38:45

Yes LIZS periodic inspections are being done by the letting agent. Sounds like she will just have to " suck it up "and hope that there isn't excessive wear and tear. I did warn her about how she might feel if her home was damaged. It's not a " buy to let " . She just had the chance to work abroad for a year and thought this would be a good way to cover some of her mortgage.

SilverSpot Mon 06-Nov-17 14:42:40

Being worried about sub-letting and it becoming an illegal HMO... totally valid concern.

Worrying about 'wear and tear'... totally not the right thing to be focusing on.

HarrietKettleWasHere Mon 06-Nov-17 14:43:27

There will be wear and tear- people are living there. That's the price you pay for letting out!

PestoSwimissimos Mon 06-Nov-17 14:44:26

She should have factored in potential wear & tear when she decided to let it out.

DunkMeInTomatoSoup Mon 06-Nov-17 14:46:33

Lets hope the tenants dont have triplets to wear and tear the washing machine before the end of 12 months

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore Mon 06-Nov-17 14:59:50

If the tenants are sub-letting (which is not uncommon) it is possibly in violation of the rental agreement. It's fairly standard to include a prohibition on sub-letting for exactly the reasons OP mentions.

notapizzaeater Mon 06-Nov-17 15:06:33

Have the lettings agent done a check to see if beds have been put in the other rooms, I’d be concerned that they needed more permits if she supplied a few - there could be a lot of people living there Which might invalidate her insurance

HarrietKettleWasHere Mon 06-Nov-17 15:08:53

Or....they could just be regular honest tenants and haven't suddenly let out the flat out to a host of students/migrant workers to make a quick buck...

Why the assumption that tenants are out to wreck your houses and break the law?!

Birdsgottafly Mon 06-Nov-17 15:15:52

"I did warn her about how she might feel if her home was damaged."

When she let it out, it was no longer her home.

My SIL put his furniture in storage and got more practical stuff (or rather filled whoevers house he could scrounge space from).

Letting a house is more than an easy way to pay a Mortgage.

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