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In thinking this woman should have been charged with rape ??

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SatansLittleHelper2 Wed 11-Oct-17 11:56:22

She anally penetrated a man until he was bleeding and yet pretty much got off with it.

And yes,I know in theory she can't be charged with rape but ffs. 😑

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-film-maker-brink-suicide-11321695.amp

MrsJayy Wed 11-Oct-17 11:58:30

Rape is defined by penetration of a penis, everything else is sexual assault sadly.

Kezzamo Wed 11-Oct-17 12:03:41

It would be assault by penetration in England and Wales and would have been treated much more seriously. Scotland have their own (odd) laws.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/ptoo_r/rapeandd_sexualoffences/soaa_2003andd_soa_1956/

kittykarate Wed 11-Oct-17 12:04:27

I do not think it matters what the crime is defined as (rape or sexual assault) as the maximum sentence for both is the same.

Whoever set the sentence for her was ridiculously lenient.

Awwlookatmybabyspider Wed 11-Oct-17 12:04:54

20 hours community service.
People on the dole have to do 100 hours, don't they.
Im beyond sickened and disgusted.
Its still unwanted penetration so I don't think yabu in calling it rape. To me it is a form of rape, for which she should have faced a lengthy custodial sentence

PotteringAlong Wed 11-Oct-17 12:05:11

She couldn't be charged with rape because she didn't rape him. She sexually assaulted him.

MrsJayy Wed 11-Oct-17 12:05:54

Yes her sentancing is just beyond belief

WitchesHatRim Wed 11-Oct-17 12:06:46

That sentence is disgraceful.

Babycham1979 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:20:00

In plenty of countries that WOULD be classed as rape, so enough of the semantics. The strange double-standards surrounding men and women's sexuality is most evident in the criminal justice system. God knows how this didn't result in a LONG custodial sentence.

fridayfreddo Wed 11-Oct-17 12:22:07

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Iris65 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:22:20

At least she is now on the sex offenders' register for a minimum of 7 years. That means that she cannot work in any caring professions, with children i.e. teaching, she cannot become a Dr or lawyer and she will have to declare the offence on job and housing applications. In her location head teachers, doctors, youth leaders, sports club managers and others, including relevant people within housing authorities, are notified of the existence of a local sex offender. She must also report to th epolice if she moves house or intends to travel abroad. They then decide whether to notify the authorities of the country she wants to visit.

TittyGolightly Wed 11-Oct-17 12:24:57

Me too, fridayfreddo

20 hours community service

120 hours.

kaytee87 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:24:58

You answered your own question. She didn't rape him so she can't be charged with rape.

Not excusing what happened of course.

Iris65 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:25:24

Regarding her assault it is perfectly possible that he was wearing shorts or loose trousers. If it was a pool party he could have had swim shorts on. Even if he was naked it was still assault!

SatansLittleHelper2 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:25:40

Are you being deliberately thick Friday ??

Would you say that about a woman who had been assaulted by a man ??

It doesnt take a genius to work out how she put her hands down the back of his trousers which may have been loose, jogging bottoms type for all anyone knows. 😑😬

ReanimatedSGB Wed 11-Oct-17 12:26:52

I also wonder if the low sentence reflects the fact that the assault was less violent than described. Normally, women who commit crimes like this are punished more severely.

scurryfunge Wed 11-Oct-17 12:28:22

Don't you understand the guilty bit FridayFreddo?

Awwlookatmybabyspider Wed 11-Oct-17 12:29:53

Sounds like a bit of victim blaming there, Friday..angry.

Oh yes my mistake. 120 hours not 20.
Still doesn't change the fact that the sentence is a joke though. Mind you no sentence in the world is long enough for a disgusting predator

Uptheduffy Wed 11-Oct-17 12:32:49

It's the sentencing that's the issue.

sashh Wed 11-Oct-17 12:34:36

When a man can rape a 12 year old and get a lesser sentence then no I understand the lenient sentence.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/17/man-who-pleaded-guilty-of-raping-12-year-old-freed-by-glasgow-high-court

stitchglitched Wed 11-Oct-17 12:39:48

It wouldn't have been rape if a man had done this to a woman either because rape requires a penis in UK law. The sentence is woeful but they often are in sexual offences. Most victims don't even see a charge let alone a conviction. I've noticed quite a bit more outrage about this case though, and lots of people claiming (wrongly) that if the victim had been a woman it would have been different.

kaytee87 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:43:13

stitch you're right, there's always a lot of outrage on the rare occasion a man is assaulted by a women. Where's the outrage for the women assaulted every single day?

guilty100 Wed 11-Oct-17 12:44:44

It's totally inappropriate to doubt his word on this. shock

SoupDragon Wed 11-Oct-17 12:44:51

Didn't he try to get away or push her off?

Lovely.

DrPill Wed 11-Oct-17 12:46:06

Kezzamo "Scotland have their own (odd) laws"
Why is it odd to have a law against assault by penetration? It's classed as a separate crime to sexual assault. Anyway, it's the sentencing that is the important part.

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