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To find Justin Trudeau a nauseating poser?

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OhThisbloodyComputer Sat 23-Sep-17 16:56:10

I remember seeing a film about the competitive world of american cheerleaders.

One chant went like this: "We're sexy!, We're hot! We're everything you're not!"

I loved that wit, especially the juxtaposition of self promotion and diminishing the opponent.

It's not enough to praise your own merits. To really make yourself stand out, you have to put everyone else down.

There are many examples of what I'd call Juxta-posers in modern life.

They sing their own praises, and try to widen the morality gap further by implying you are some sort of reactionary yokel.

For example, we were talking about a mutual acquaintance at work who happens to be gay. Our office poser at work says: "He's gay. But I haven't got a problem with that."

As if to imply I did!

Strike a Pose! Vogue!

Of course, I was too dim to be able to articulate why this made me angry. It took me ages to spot the subtle way it was insinuated that The Office Poser was good and that I was a troglodyte! I'm more of an 'esprits d'escalier' type. In fact, words often don't come to me until three weeks later, never mind on the staircase.

Which brings me on to Justin Trudeau.

He's the worst Juxta-Poser ever. In the latest example of his Vogueing, he condemns men for, wait for it, 'Bro Culture'. He then goes on to lecture 'men' that they have to follow his example and be great feminists. Like him.

(What he was really saying was "look at me everybody. Just look at me!"). What an utterly cynical, selfish little creep.

What on earth is Bro Culture? If there is something like that, I've never been informed. I'm clearly not on the mailing list of 'The Patriarchy', because I never seem to get any updates on the manly conspiracy to control the world.

What annoys me about Trudeau is that he's demonising other men, just so he can look good by comparison.

I never trust men who declare themselves a feminist. Surely that's an accreditation that has to be earned anyway. You can't just appoint yourself can you? Isn't there an examining board?

Don't get me wrong, I am slowly being educated by feminism and I don't wet the bed about it any more (well not as much anyway) but I can't hack show boating male feminists.

What a ghastly poser this man is. I hope it all ends badly for him.

To quote another chant from those American cheer leaders: "That's alright, that's OK, but you're gonna pump our gas some day."

Am I being unreasonable to not like Trudeau, his straw man arguments and his ghastly moral exhibitionism?

Advice puh-lease!

OuchBollocks Sat 23-Sep-17 16:58:48

Dunno but I want to watch Bring It On now. Fab film.

OhThisbloodyComputer Sat 23-Sep-17 17:02:28

That was it, Bring It On.

The Americans are brilliant at insulting people, it has to be said

Moanyoldcow Sat 23-Sep-17 17:06:15


Sorry. Love that film.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel Sat 23-Sep-17 17:07:57

YANBU. He is very pretty but he doesn't care as much about women's rights as he is always telling us.

EamonnWright Sat 23-Sep-17 17:09:51

He's just another hypocrite. Claims to be a Feminist yet supplies arms to Saudi Arabia.

File under Populist.

Grimbles Sat 23-Sep-17 17:13:51

Yeah, you are right.

Still would though.

intimeandspace Sat 23-Sep-17 17:17:53

Ghastly showboating prick of he highest order. And those fucking SOCKS. Pride socks, Eid socks- you'd have to fight that one for space at the bathroom mirror. Rage.

EamonnWright Sat 23-Sep-17 17:21:06

Ghastly showboating prick of he highest order. And those fucking SOCKS. Pride socks, Eid socks- you'd have to fight that one for space at the bathroom mirror. Rage

Haha true! He also has a love in with the Irish Taoiseach simply because Leo is gay, having him over for the pride parade socks on full view etc.

The whole time the Taoiseach is a massive right wing arsehole, regardless of sexuality.

claraschu Sat 23-Sep-17 17:21:43

His environmental record is what makes me sceptical...not great!

On the other hand, when I consider TM and T*ump, he starts to look pretty good.

WorraLiberty Sat 23-Sep-17 17:24:01

I read the title as "To find Justin Trudeau a nauseating poster? "

I had no idea he'd joined Mumsnet shock grin

Lethaldrizzle Sat 23-Sep-17 17:27:02

Bro culture is where they put the interests of men before women, - bros before hos, -any man who is against that is hero in my book. God forbid he should encourage other men to be feminists! Outrageous!

SetPhasersTaeMalkie Sat 23-Sep-17 17:37:17

Difficult to say really. I can't really get past how hot he is.

EamonnWright Sat 23-Sep-17 17:39:02

Bro culture is where they put the interests of men before women, - bros before hos, -any man who is against that is hero in my book. God forbid he should encourage other men to be feminists! Outrageous!

Yet he is best mates with the Irish PM simply because he's gay. Or is that OK?

whippetwoman Sat 23-Sep-17 17:43:43

I'm sure you're right but he is extremely hot, which I also am having trouble getting past. I guess that makes me sexist. Sorry.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel Sat 23-Sep-17 17:48:31

And this is why they shouldn't let men be politicians sad

OhThisbloodyComputer Sat 23-Sep-17 17:48:53


I wasn't aware there is any formal movement to put men's interests before women. I suppose Saudi Arabia would be an obvious case. Although, oddly, Trudeau doesn't seem to have any objections there.

Bro Culture just sounds like a silly catch phrase to me.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie Sat 23-Sep-17 17:50:38

Have you seen the boxing pictures? Holy Hell.

<wipes brow>

Apileofballyhoo Sat 23-Sep-17 17:51:57


OhThisbloodyComputer Sat 23-Sep-17 17:52:47


Your objectification of men is demeaning.

We have brains too.

Nettletheelf Sat 23-Sep-17 17:52:58

He is an arse. It's the studied, fake sincere facial expression that repulses me most.

OhThisbloodyComputer Sat 23-Sep-17 17:59:19

A significant sample size seems to be taken in by his looks.

Other seemingly intelligent people have been taken in by his empty rhetoric and Aunt Sally arguments.

I'm surprised by this. But what the hell, if this works, who am I to argue?

Might as well go with what the market wants. So:

Death to Bro Culture!
Smash the Patriarchy!
Get your knickers off love, I'm a feminist!

HolyShmoly Sat 23-Sep-17 18:00:05

Yeah, I'm not very up on my politics, but I have a nagging feeling that him and Varadkar are complete ass-wipes, but because they are young and Not Trump they seem much more like they represent you and I. As a pp stated, populism with another face.

Out2pasture Sat 23-Sep-17 18:09:33

Poser is right, I don’t believe a word he says! I’m more inline with the Conservative party so his backtracking sometimes is fine.

theancientmarinader Sat 23-Sep-17 18:13:38

Meh. I found his political style refreshing in the face of the usual slag everyone off and prop up the status quo/ sleaze/ fuck everyone if they aren't a white male albertan rhetoric. <as evidenced by attitudes towards McKenna>
I can't say I'm that bothered by the 'posing' - it's boring media spin for the most part. I'm just mildly disappointed by the fact he seems a bit more vacuous than he seemed as a campaigner. It seemed to start well enough with some actual concrete attempts towards equality in politics and disturbing the comfort of old white dudes, and the recent moves towards more of a two nation state, and hopefully renewed interest in sorting out indigenous matters gives me a bit of hope. I would still rather see the emphasis on positive politics rather than the yelling and destruction though. <eternal optimist>
I can't actually vote though. So my opinion is neither here nor there.

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