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TeaCake5 Wed 23-Aug-17 08:37:04

They are the "the worst users of drink and drugs"

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/wednesday-briefing-baby-boomers-worst-drinkers-and-drug-users

I guess they can afford to with housing not being a problem for them - people in their 20s and 30s have no spare money for drink and drugs!

YABU.

Millennials are simultaneously ruining the housing market by spending all their money on luxury avocado toast, and ruining the luxury market by saving their money to try and buy houses. Dontcha know.

HateSummer Wed 23-Aug-17 08:41:43

Well, it shows money doesn't make you happy I suppose.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince Wed 23-Aug-17 08:48:40

Ffs. I am so sick of this shite about Boomers. I was born 1964, so in some place I'm Gen Jones. However for the record:

I voted remain
I think the government are totally shafting the Millenials. It's appalling the amount of debt they are loading on them
I don't have a second home, I struggle to pay the mortgage on mine
I dont have a gold plated pension
I remember when interest rates were 15% and people were losing their houses left right and centre
As a young adult l lived under Thatcher for years and years. That was fun.
It took me a year to find s job after leaving college as youth unemployment was so high.

So just go away <polite>😡

BellaNoche Wed 23-Aug-17 08:50:29

YABU
They are no doubt being driven to the edge by certain millennials constantly borrowing money, asking for lifts, being unpaid childminders, suffering elder abuse and being asked constantly as to whom is getting what in the will.
I detest this kind of judgemental shite against people of any age.
Hand me the gin...

Puggsville Wed 23-Aug-17 08:53:00

I'm sick of the bloody whinging about Boomers. You have no idea of the hardships endured and still ongoing.

If you're young now then enjoy your health and all the opportunities you have that boomers couldn't even dream of. Don't be bitter and resentful - just grab life!

GetOutOfMYGarden Wed 23-Aug-17 08:54:02

I personally don't mind them criticising my generation, I'm too busy destroying their favourite industries including diamonds, pubs, and bar soap to give a shit.

grin

KittyVonCatsington Wed 23-Aug-17 08:54:48

They are no doubt being driven to the edge by certain millennials constantly borrowing money, asking for lifts, being unpaid childminders, suffering elder abuse and being asked constantly as to whom is getting what in the will.

^Also judgemental shite.

CaoNiMartacus Wed 23-Aug-17 08:55:32

The amount of divisions between us is reaching terrifying levels. The media seem hell-bent on setting up and promoting every possible binary. Why must we hate each other?

* shuffles off in a hippyish grump *

thatisnotmydog Wed 23-Aug-17 08:55:52

You're being very selective. When I was young, eating out was a rare treat and coffees weren't available on every street corner. Foreign holidays? No.
We had a student flat with no bathroom, just a toilet on the stair, and used the kitchen sink to wash our faces. No central heating obviously.
Compared to the students I know now I drank hardly anything when I was young.
And yes I'm old, but in my sixties, not ancient (well, maybe to young people I am). Most of my friends are exhausting themselves looking after grandchildren. So if we want to enjoy comforts and have a drink in the evening, so what.

I'm too busy destroying their favourite industries including diamonds, pubs, and bar soap to give a shit.

This grin

mogulfield Wed 23-Aug-17 09:02:45

I recently read an article in the times about how boomers have made life very hard for millennials. It's not their fault, but they are privileged.
By the time I get there the NHS won't be free, no one will be able to afford a house and I don't think Il ever see a state pension. My Grandad in law retired as a policeman at 50 and has had an incredible pension since then, meaning he hasn't had to work. He's received a pension longer than he ever worked.
Also we're in a housing crisis and 3% of second home owners were born after 1981.

mogulfield Wed 23-Aug-17 09:06:35

I would say, the boomers I personally know (my in laws) are very generous with the fact they rode a house price boom. They do help us out when they can, they helped put money towards my business, gave us the bar bill for our wedding for eg. So I do think a lot of boomers help millenials out. I don't think they're selfish to be clear.

m4rdybum Wed 23-Aug-17 09:07:04

Ovaries - I got to simultaneously ruining the housing market on your post and started getting angry, then got the avocado toast grin

AuntieStella Wed 23-Aug-17 09:07:14

People can have views about what other people do. And every instance of that should be dealt with in its merits.

For example, stirring up inter-generational bad feeling isn't helpful and ageism can be a crime.

That some people in an age bracket engage in a particular form of reckless behaviour isn't remotely relevant to other issues which may relate to a different cohort, and which can continue to be spoken of.

Laiste Wed 23-Aug-17 09:07:36

The age of baby boomers now are apx late 50s to early 70s. I don't know anyone of my inlaws sort of age who are particularly hedonistic at all.

However, i know A LOT of late 30 somethings who are still getting staggering about pissed every Saturday night like a bunch of teenagers and using cocaine most weekends. They're starting to look older than they are and don't function well at work.

So YABU IMO.

TwatteryFlowers Wed 23-Aug-17 09:08:25

My parents are boomers I think (they're in their 60s) but I'm not a millennial (I don't think? I was born in 1980).

They both own their own houses, whereas I'm stuck renting a housing association house, but they're certainly not well off.

My dad only managed to pay off his mortgage because he got a big payout when he was made redundant after having worked for that company for 26 years. After being made redundant a 2nd time a few years later he never found another job and has basically lived off his savings since then (he did have quite a week paid job working nights as a welder).

My mum only managed to pay off her mortgage with the compo after breaking her leg. Her house was an old, dilapidated shell until my step-dad died and the money from his share of his garage and from his life insurance policy allowed her to finally afford to get the builders in to finish the million jobs that needed doing. She can't afford to retire.

Neither of them live flashy lives and they certainly don't have lots of money to splurge. My dad is an alcoholic but what he spends on lager he saves by not eating very much and not putting his heating on above 13℃.

TwatteryFlowers Wed 23-Aug-17 09:09:12

Week well paid job...

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince Wed 23-Aug-17 09:09:42

So, no one will be able to afford a house ever?

Eventually all the Boomers in their big expensive houses will die. And what will happen then? Won't there be a glut of property?

As for pensions. If you are paying NI that is your pension. If the government try to take it( (as they have done with me) then you need to fight it just like WASPI are doing.

MrTrebus Wed 23-Aug-17 09:12:01

I have previously made comments about baby boomers and was banned and my comments deleted. I didn't even think I was being overly rude but I now realise generalising a whole section of the population is really not a good idea and really unkind and as a 30 something I'd hate to be judged in that way based on generation! I give it about 30 mins before this thread is deleted.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince Wed 23-Aug-17 09:12:28

And my children are Millennials. Why why would l choose to make life hard for them?

Just why?

GetOutOfMYGarden Wed 23-Aug-17 09:13:39

If you are paying NI that is your pension.

No it's not, that's a massive misunderstanding a lot of the population have.

When I pay my NI, aged 25, it's not going towards my pension at all. It's paying out pensions for people currently receiving one. There is no guarantee that by the time I get to 68 (or 70, or 92, whatever retirement is when I get there) that there will be a state pension paid out to anyone. I'll have contribution years but if the state pension is £0, then all it does is prove that I'm entitled to £0.

KittyVonCatsington Wed 23-Aug-17 09:13:44

Most of my friends are exhausting themselves looking after grandchildren.

So no Baby Boomer ever had their parents or in-laws help out with childcare? I have no assistance with childcare, even though mine did

thatisnotmydog-The 'package foreign holiday' rose in popularity during the 1950s-plenty of foreign holidays were had from the 60s onwards. As with any 'anecdote' some people didn't have them (both baby boomers and current generation x/millennials) and some did/do. You're being selective too.

Flyingflipflop Wed 23-Aug-17 09:15:11

Millennials have it easy.

They've not had to suffer Vesta curry, Angel Delight to spaghetti hoops.

JadeT2 Wed 23-Aug-17 09:15:19

Grandparents looking after grandchildren isn't a Millennial thing surely? My parents are in their 50s and were looked after by their grandparents about 60% of the time and I'm in my 20s and was looked after by mine about 70% of the time.

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