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To marry a new European?

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ahatlikeprincessmarina · 20/07/2017 15:02

DP is applying for an Irish passport based on a grandparent being born there. We're not married but have been together for donkeys years. Would it protect my status as European if we tied the knot once he's Irish Grin, does anyone know?? Are we as well doing it as not?

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/07/2017 15:04

You are still European! We aren't leaving a continent.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 20/07/2017 15:04

Where do you live? The UK? Because I think you'd have to apply for citizenship based on spouse and when I did that somewhere else you needed to be resident.

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Okkitokkiunga · 20/07/2017 15:06

I've applied for French nationality through DH and we live in England. Each country has its own laws depending on whether or not they allow dual nationality.

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ahatlikeprincessmarina · 20/07/2017 15:06

Sorry ...British (Scottish), live in UK.

Won't be European politically after Brexit, Piglet!

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ahatlikeprincessmarina · 20/07/2017 15:07

Your DH is actually French though, Okki?

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Topseyt · 20/07/2017 15:16

Piglet, once Brexit takes effect we in the UK will no longer be European citizens. We will lose our European citizenship and many of us aren't happy about that.

Check it out, OP. Not sure of all of the criteria, but I think I have heard that it is possible.

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MaidOfStars · 20/07/2017 15:23

I have an Irish passport (via a parent) and my reading during application was that my husband has additional residency requirements before he could be an Irish citizen.

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ginghambox · 20/07/2017 15:27

once Brexit takes effect we in the UK will no longer be European citizens
Wrong we will no longer be EU citizens.

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Amd724 · 20/07/2017 15:28

My husband is about to apply, as his father did and received it based on his mother. I'll have my daughter apply once she's born, but I was reading that unless I've been living in Ireland for a certain period of time, I don't qualify.

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MsRinky · 20/07/2017 15:42

Won't work I'm afraid. I've applied for my Irish passport (thanks, Dad) but it won't help my husband unless we actually go and live in Ireland. He'll have to queue in the non EU queue at the airport on his own.

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EyeHalveASpellingChequer · 20/07/2017 15:42

We will no longer be citizens of the EU and EEA. That right was granted to you either in 1993 when the Maastricht Treaty took effect or when you were born, whichever came last. British citizens have always been European because the UK is in Europe.

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sobeyondthehills · 20/07/2017 15:43

My family have started doing this, but for a different EU country. Rules are all different for each of us, depending on age and a few other things.

Also when we first started looking into it, the price was affordable, they have since put the prices up not that I am cynical

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scottishdiem · 20/07/2017 15:46

Technically if you wanted to move to Ireland after Brexit you are allowed to go as the spouse of an EU citizen as opposed to applying for a spousal visa. So if he is allowed to be seen as an Irish citizen then that will apply. My DP and I have already moved to Dublin to take advantage of this rule (DP is non-EU but EU countries offer us more stability).

However, this wont have much of an impact if you are not moving there as travelling to the EU will require passports and maybe visas as you will be a non-EU citizen. He will get to go through the EU passport line. The holders of the Sacred Blue (with Rule Britannia, FUCKING RULE BRITANNIA printed inside) Passports will be will be in the rest of the world cue.

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PovertyPain · 20/07/2017 15:48

I have bith British and Irish passports. 🙂 [smug]

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13Bastards · 20/07/2017 15:48

Sadly not. My DH is applying for a passport from his grandmothers country but it doesn't stretch to me sadly

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MrsTerryPratchett · 20/07/2017 15:48

If you wait long enough as a Scottish person you might be in luck. That's what I'm hoping for.

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MargaretTwatyer · 20/07/2017 15:49

No. You have to have lived in Ireland for two out of the last 3 years to get a spouse passport now.

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PovertyPain · 20/07/2017 15:50

But I obviously can't speak English. *both. 😳

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EyeHalveASpellingChequer · 20/07/2017 15:51

You're can't get Irish citizenship through marriage unless you live (and continue to live) in either Ireland or Northern Ireland.

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/becoming_an_irish_citizen_through_marriage.htm

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DramaAlpaca · 20/07/2017 15:51

DH is Irish, I am British. I've lived in the Republic of Ireland for many years but it's not possible to automatically get citizenship and qualify for an Irish passport on the grounds of marriage to an Irish citizen or length of residency in Ireland. To get an Irish passport you have to go through naturalisation, which costs around €1,000, so I'm holding off for now but may do so in future.

Useful information here

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TheSeaTheSkyTheSeaTheSkyyyyyy · 20/07/2017 16:10

You're can't get Irish citizenship through marriage unless you live (and continue to live) in either Ireland or Northern Ireland.

This is true, but OP your "EU status" would be protected if you were married to an EU citizen, in that you would both be able apply for permanent residency in any other EU country with little difficulty.

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MargaretTwatyer · 20/07/2017 16:14

Technically if you wanted to move to Ireland after Brexit you are allowed to go as the spouse of an EU citizen as opposed to applying for a spousal visa

Free movement between the UK and Ireland is totally separate from the EU and predates it, it's highly unlikely that British or Irish citizens will need visas to travel in each other's countries regardless of what happens with the EU.

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RubbishMantra · 20/07/2017 16:15

So once Brexit takes effect, you'll be allowed buy duty free at the airport when travelling between UK and EU?

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MondayTuesdayWednesday · 20/07/2017 16:19

I wonder how many people getting passports for Ireland and other EU countries through grandparents voted in favour of Brexit?

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scottishdiem · 20/07/2017 16:24

"MargaretTwatyer"

There is a difference between going there and moving there. And there is a bigger problem if one of the couple is not British or Irish. The return of the Common Travel Area probably wont apply to the Polish or Spanish spouse of a British citizen. It should be noted that there is no legal underpinning of the CTA. Its only a basic intergovernmental agreement and can be rescinded at any time. EU freedom of movement has a lot of law backing it up.

"RubbishMantra"

At current unrestricted levels? Unlikely. After all, we wont be in the EU so will be under these rules - www.gov.uk/duty-free-goods/arrivals-from-outside-the-eu

But the blue passort is worth is apparently...

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