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Or am I thick? Surely it can't be legal

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PolaDeVeboise · 27/06/2017 14:45

To use OUR money to 'buy' a majority to push through your manifesto (edited version or no)?

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TeenAndTween · 27/06/2017 15:03

You may not like it, but it is how hung parliaments work.

It is not as if the DUP are getting the money in their pockets. It is being spent on US - at least the parts of US who live in NI.

Or do you not think that if Labour and SNP had had enough to make a majority that extra spending wouldn't have found itself on its way to Scotland?

justmatureenough2bdad · 27/06/2017 15:05

what incentives do you think jeremy corbyn would use to bind other parties to a minority government? scotch mist?

Changedtocovermyass · 27/06/2017 15:13

It's OK. She's got that monrytree. Remember? I was amused by the 'woman pays £1bn for house in London' joke articles. But it is the disgusting reality of power hungry politicians.
Meanwhile house prices are set to soar following the tower slum debacles. At least that elite make money out of it.

PineappleScrunchie · 27/06/2017 15:17

Its not as if the DUP are getting the money in their pockets

Not sure you can be so confident about that!

FlyingElbows · 27/06/2017 15:18

I should imagine there are currently teams of lawyers engaged in assessing whether or not it's legal and looking for any sniff of a challenge they can work with.

PolaDeVeboise · 27/06/2017 15:18

This is not about who is dealing with whom, it's about the 'bribery' aspect of it, I'm just flabbergasted that it's allowed to happen.

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Andrewofgg · 27/06/2017 15:22

How much more would JC have bunged to Scotland if he had needed the SNP to form a government?

A lot. There are more people in Scotland than in NI to share it among.

TeenAndTween · 27/06/2017 15:39

With the Tory-LibDem coalition, Lib Dems 'got' PP, free school meals, and a referendum on our voting system, things that (I guess) had been in their manifesto. I'm also guessing that the DUP had 'spend more money on NI' in their manifesto. It's how politics works.

PurpleMinionMummy · 27/06/2017 16:14

I belie it's being legally challenged.....

PolaDeVeboise · 27/06/2017 16:21

I get the 'manifesto' compromises, however, this is just, plain, 'buying' power to my mind. Glad it's being challenged.

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Andrewofgg · 27/06/2017 19:01

PurpleMinionMummy Legslly challenged? Haye you a link? It's no more justiciable than the formation of the Coalition in 2019or the Lib-Lab pact in 1977. The courts cannot tell MPs which lobby to vote in.

ragged · 27/06/2017 19:34

The Electorate punished the LibDems for going into coalition last time. So that door was firmly shut. The electorate are getting what they deserve, sadly.

donquixotedelamancha · 27/06/2017 19:37

"How much more would JC have bunged to Scotland if he had needed the SNP to form a government?
A lot. There are more people in Scotland than in NI to share it among."

Well given he explicitly stated he wouldn't do that, none.

PurpleMinionMummy · 27/06/2017 19:44
Andrewofgg · 27/06/2017 21:00

donquixote I know a lot of people think Mr C is a different sort of politician but if he had had the choice of a deal with the SNP or let the Conservatives stay on he would have found some way of finding that it had to be the deal whatever pledges he had given.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 27/06/2017 21:06

People don't care, Op.

They don't care that the Tory's manifesto promises have been forgotten.

They don't care about the massive bung to NI.

They don't care that it may jeopardize the GFA.

They don't care that this is from the party that blew millions on an self-aggrandizing election.

They don't care that this is from the woman who mocked the opposition's 'magic money tree'.

They don't care that we are being lead into a damaging Brexit by a fella who has no idea what he is doing.

I know. Weird, right?!

engineersthumb · 27/06/2017 21:07

This is not how a hung parliment is meant to be resolved. Political partners should work together to achieve political aims, not sell out for cash to appease their electorate.

PolaDeVeboise · 27/06/2017 21:10

My thoughts exactly engineers.

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hackmum · 27/06/2017 21:48

Let's leave aside the party politics and whether Labour are just as bad as the Tories etc. Just look at it objectively. Surely it feels wrong to people? I don't know if it's illegal but instinctively it feels as if it ought to be.

JeffVadersMum · 27/06/2017 21:51

Surely it cannot be legal though? Where is this money coming from?

PolaDeVeboise · 27/06/2017 21:52

It IS wrong. Hence my original question about legality. It's like sticking your hand in the company till to pay your mortgage!

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LynetteScavo · 27/06/2017 21:52

I agree it seems wrong. I'd say that whichever parties were involved.

But I've learned that many things I think are wrong are perfectly legal, so what do I know.

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Guepe · 27/06/2017 21:59

Where is this money coming from?

They found the magic money tree, obviously.

Although it's clearly a bigger tree than they thought, as this deal is costing more than all of the Labour manifesto policies would have.

The Torries are absolutely shameless.

iwouldgoouttonight · 27/06/2017 22:00

It does seem very wrong. I read that in exchange for the money the DUP will vote in line with Conservatives. Is that what happened with Tory/Lib Dems? In exchange for free school meals, and the referendum on the voting system, etc did they have to vote in line with the Torys?

ragged · 27/06/2017 22:04

NO, the Libdems & Tories hashed out specific policies to jointly support; Libdems were integrated as ministers across the Cabinet. LibDems made the Tories compromise. Each side had some prenegotiated redlines, too, that they had to sign up to in advance of coalition agreement.

It looks like DUP have signed more of a blank cheque to support Tory Agenda.

Should be more good cartoons out soon about May's magic money tree.

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