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AIBU to be infuriated with this grammar?

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Nquartz Wed 14-Jun-17 14:27:20

I come across this word multiple times a day at work, and it gives me the rage every. single. time: mens

Can that way ever be correct? I always write it men's, surely I'm right?

AgathaCrispie Wed 14-Jun-17 14:34:49

You are right. And you are right to be annoyed.

MrsOverTheRoad Wed 14-Jun-17 14:35:26

Well if you're talking about sentences like "Men's rights matter" then YANBU.

Is it that kind of thing?

Nquartz Wed 14-Jun-17 14:37:22

It's things like men's shower gel or men's razors

Allthebestnamesareused Wed 14-Jun-17 14:37:48

It can be correct if you are using latin - mens rea!

BeyondThePage Wed 14-Jun-17 14:41:07

men is already plural, so the s can only be after an apostrophe - unless I got it wrong...

Catsize Wed 14-Jun-17 15:00:57

Infuriated with, or infuriated by?... 😉

Catsize Wed 14-Jun-17 15:01:59

Oh, I agree with you. Same with children's, women's etc. In huuuuuuuge 4ft letters in our local Sainsbury's.

NellieFiveBellies Wed 14-Jun-17 15:02:56

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Dobinette Wed 14-Jun-17 15:20:29

Then you'll love this...

Nquartz Wed 14-Jun-17 15:40:05

Oh, I agree with you. Same with children's, women's etc. In huuuuuuuge 4ft letters in our local Sainsbury's.

This is exactly what I mean angry

So glad it's not just me!

OwlsinTowls Wed 14-Jun-17 15:45:38

What if it is something belonging to many boys?

It is the boy's toilet, or it is the boys' toilet? Wouldn't the former imply possession to a singular boy, and the latter plural possession?

ImperialBlether Wed 14-Jun-17 15:49:00

Same with children's, women's etc

Eh? What's wrong with children's and women's?

Nquartz Wed 14-Jun-17 15:53:57


In shops they write it mens, womens, childrens etc

NetballHoop Wed 14-Jun-17 15:58:07

I'll just pop this in here...

HarimadSol Wed 14-Jun-17 16:04:03

How about this one?

AWendyAteMyFitbit Wed 14-Jun-17 16:11:15

The worst is, imo, mistaking "woman' for 'women' - surely that's one of the most bizarre mistakes around. One is PLURAL, one SINGULAR. It's really quite simple. It's happening more and more and is even harder to get my head around than a missing possessive apostrophe, though that bothers me too op.

BasketOfDeplorables Wed 14-Jun-17 16:43:06

Oh god Netball - an apostrophe in tapas!

PocaMiseria Wed 14-Jun-17 17:03:10

You'll have to forgive the Spaniards- it's not their native language - as even English-speakers can't get it right.

SmashingBlouses Wed 14-Jun-17 17:20:48

My grammar is crap. You either have it or you don't.

I won't lose sleep over it though.

lazycrazyhazy Wed 14-Jun-17 17:21:37

Not sure if I missed the point but PP is right the apostrophe is before the s if the word is already plural e.g. children's playground.

With the example of boys, the boy's playground is the playground of one boy. The boys' playground is the playground of more than one boy.

The other issue is apostrophes being used inappropriately as in grocery shops where you see "tomato's". It's worth remembering that in most cases an apostrophe means belongs to. The exception is it's which only has one when it means "it is" not when something belongs to it.

peachgreen Wed 14-Jun-17 17:23:06

@OwlsinTowls That's different because boy is singular. Men is already plural. So it would be 'boys' clothes' but 'children's clothes'. Clothes for boys, clothes for children. No s.

NotYoda Wed 14-Jun-17 17:25:42

There seem to be people who throw in apostrophes willy nilly into plurals, and those who worry about getting it wrong so don't put any in

BasketOfDeplorables Wed 14-Jun-17 17:41:32

Poca I was assuming that the sign for the Spanish restaurant was written by someone with English as their first language - hence shoving in the apostrophe.

budgiegirl Wed 14-Jun-17 18:14:46

In huuuuuuuge 4ft letters in our local Sainsbury's

But that's grammatically correct, I'm pretty sure. Because it refers to a shop that was founded by one man, J Sainsbury.

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