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To think the KKK do not pose the same threat as radicalised Islamists?

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Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 13:39:47

What it says above really. I make no excuses for the KKK, they are obviously racist, supremacist and have the blood of many innocent people on their hands but do they really compare with the current threat? I have been told that they do.

araiwa Mon 05-Jun-17 13:41:34

Try being a black person in kkk areas in their peak time and ask yourself again

What an appalling question

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 13:42:04

Er, the far right in the USA don't need such egregious branding any longer.

They are in the White House. Pence is a far right racist.

mothertruck3r Mon 05-Jun-17 13:42:30

Of course they don't. But in the wacky world of Mumsnet, Buddhists are just as much to blame for terrorism as Islamic fundamentalists!

HardcoreLadyType Mon 05-Jun-17 13:42:39

I guess it depends on where you live and what colour your skin is. I (a white woman in the UK) am probably not at much risk from the KKK, but a black man in parts of America may well be.

Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 13:43:08

I am talking on a large scale. I meant nothing racist by it at all and apologise should anyone think so.

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 13:43:37

Yes, they do compare with the current threat. The far right in the USA are not to be underestimated. They are heavily funded and organised.

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 13:44:46

On a large scale in the USA the hard right are as big if not bigger threat to most of us in the west than IS.

ThumbWitchesAbroad Mon 05-Jun-17 13:45:00

Radicalised white supremacists are dangerous fuckers though - look at some of the attacks that they have orchestrated!
www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mosque-shooting-quebec-city-20170130-story.html
metro.co.uk/2016/12/15/white-supremacist-guilty-of-church-massacre-that-killed-nine-black-worshippers-6326030/
for starters.

Mass killings - but not of white people, of course. So yes, they do - but maybe not to you, unless you're a person of colour.

Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 13:47:06

Thanks for the replies. They are certainly making me think.

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 13:47:13

Alt-Right is the new KKK.

They are wiping out women's rights in the USA, increasing systemic racism in the police, education and judicial systems and are forging ties with white "Christian" allies, ie Russians.

Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 13:48:35

I can't get my head around this world, it's too much for me, I'm a naive soul!

araiwa Mon 05-Jun-17 13:52:02

Its estimated that the kkk murdered approx 3500 people. Thats more than 9/11

Numbers are difficult as kkk tried to hide themselves and their identities by disguising themselves as caspar the friendly ghost

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 13:52:06

www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-radical-crusade-of-mike-pence-w462223

robinofsherwood Mon 05-Jun-17 13:52:37

Its going to depend on who you are. As a (mostly) white woman living in the UK I'm not at much risk from the KKK and nor are my children.

But surely there's a massive difference between terrorist attacks from a very small minority of extremists against everyone else and attacks that reflected the deep seated racism that a significant portion of people feel towards a minority.

I can tell my children, for example, that if they are ever in trouble they can find a police officer...

stella23 Mon 05-Jun-17 13:53:22

Is there some league table of badness, with groups aiming for the top spot. Their all scum, pushing their own agenda of hates dn discrimination

Dandandandandandandan Mon 05-Jun-17 13:53:29

Not as much of a threat to YOU, maybe hmm

Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 13:56:25

No need for the eye rolls. I posted to gather others' opinions. I am trying to get everything into perspective as I'm really struggling to understand what the hell is going on globally currently.

Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 13:57:23

Thanks Buns, I will do more research.

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 13:58:10

Trump's chief policy advisor:

news.vice.com/story/stephen-miller-torture-video-iraq

stopfuckingshoutingatme Mon 05-Jun-17 14:00:05

What an appalling question

this is a disgusting comment OP, how fucking dare you minimise their horrible crimes and how dare you try and lighten this issue and "compare" them. their actions have left scars that will take generations to heal

shame on you , I cant believe someone could even think this was a topic to discuss

Helendee Mon 05-Jun-17 14:02:08

Ok I'm leaving this. I posted a genuine question which I in no way intended to cause offence.

I was hoping for a genuine debate but that doesn't seem likely do thanks for all the replies.

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 14:03:48

But surely there's a massive difference between terrorist attacks from a very small minority of extremists against everyone else and attacks that reflected the deep seated racism that a significant portion of people feel towards a minority.

Alt-Right, who are in the seat of power in the super power of the world also put women in the minority to be despised, relegated to the home and to be derogated. Erosion of rights is not just through terrorism. Social regression breeds fundamentalism and extremism. We have seen in happen in other countries. Do not underestimate what is happening in the USA and think that it extends "only" to POC.

EdithWeston Mon 05-Jun-17 14:03:54

There really isn't any need to try to rank them.

Unless you are head if the FBI and assigning personnel and budgets (and I'm kind of assuming OP is not that).

All murderous bastards need to be dealt with, wherever they are and whoever they kill. Just like an individual murderer still needs to be brought to justice even when there's a serial killer at large.

BunsBumpBlur Mon 05-Jun-17 14:06:06

Discussing who is a threat isn't disgusting. Raising awareness of the rising far right threat in the USA is important.

They aren't the KKK any longer. They are ALT-right and they are in the WHITE HOUSE.

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