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Telling my Tory voting mother that she should pay for my daughter to go to university.

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sociallyacceptable Wed 31-May-17 08:52:10

My DD is very bright and could go to university if she doesn't arse about trying to be cool like I did. She is now 12.
My mum often talks about what she might do at university when she is older. I have been considering discouraging her from going because of the cost, we cannot afford to fund it ourselves unfortunately and she will have huge debt. It's kind of light hearted but I feel like telling my Tory voting mother that she should pay for her to go as she is not interested in voting to change this.

Ginorchoc Wed 31-May-17 08:57:39

It's ironic isn't it when labour took away free education.

waggawagga Wed 31-May-17 08:58:56

Touche

ThroughThickAndThin01 Wed 31-May-17 09:00:39

As it was Labour who introduced tuition fees a number of years before your dd was born, you'd better tell her not to vote for Labour either.

Fortnum Wed 31-May-17 09:01:11

Well you have 6 years to improve your situation to help dund her education. Failing that she will be allowed to borrow to fund her education, if she works hard and attains a good degree her future earning would pay those costs over time.

amicissimma Wed 31-May-17 09:01:26

I don't really see what how your mother votes has anything to do with your DD's choice of career.

If your DD does go to university the idea is that she will then be more likely to have a high-earning career. Do you think that the country's tax-payers, many of whom will be less well-off, should pay for that? If she doesn't earn well she will not have to pay off the cost of her education, as repayments don't kick in until she reaches a certain salary (and only increase when her pay does).

cushioncovers Wed 31-May-17 09:04:05

Labour introduced fees and the conservatives have kept them and increased them. Six of one and half a dozen of the other!

sociallyacceptable Wed 31-May-17 09:04:38

I am aware of who introduced the tuition fees and that the tories supported it, but there is an opportunity to change this now and it is not by voting Tory.

BandeauSally Wed 31-May-17 09:06:11

Please do not discourage your daughter from going to university because she will have debt afterwards! A debt she may never earn enough to pay and if she does she will be earning enough to pay. Seriously.

ChardonnaysPrettySister Wed 31-May-17 09:06:56

Why is your daughter your mother's responsibility?

And yes, it was Labour who introduced the fees.

So, while I can see you frustration, I don't agree with your reasoning.

waitforitfdear Wed 31-May-17 09:08:15

She's 12 so I wouldn't be planning her future just yet love she may choose not to go to uni and do am apprentership or go straight to work.

Your post is a bit silly as labour introduced the fees the Tories invresddd them and the only reason labour is talking about abolishing them is that they can't do simple maths costings and they won't get in anyway to fail.

PizzaPower Wed 31-May-17 09:08:26

Another OP who blames others, rather than looking at what they can do themselves.
You have eight years!

sociallyacceptable Wed 31-May-17 09:09:24

Chardonnay She is not my mothers responsibility but it is her who goes on about how clever she is and what she will do at university!

BartholinsSister Wed 31-May-17 09:09:30

You don't need to fund it yourselves, and chances are she won't have to pay it back anyway.

originalbiglymavis Wed 31-May-17 09:11:17

Eh, what? That'll be the labour government education fees then? So move to scotland in the meantime for free higher education (whilst it lasts). I assume your child isn't at private school (labour private school fees vat proposal).

Did your mum support your higher education? Why should she fund your child - she's not responsible?

tinypop4 Wed 31-May-17 09:11:32

You don't have to fund it, she can get a loan like students have for several years now.
It's not really your mums responsibility whichever way she votes

SuburbanRhonda Wed 31-May-17 09:12:24

OP, you should read Martin Lewis's excellent article on Money Saving Expert for why you shouldn't view tuition fees as a "debt".

sociallyacceptable Wed 31-May-17 09:13:02

Well neither me or my DP will earn much more in 8 years unless we retrain, can't afford to do this either. My DP works 70+ hours running his business so please don't say we are not trying.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Wed 31-May-17 09:14:57

Grow up OP. It's great that she's encouraging and building up your dds confidence. Stop being a petulant child to your mum.

coconuttella Wed 31-May-17 09:15:03

If Labour get in we'll all be paying through our taxes for your daughter's higher education and the opportunities it gives her to become a high earner. How is that any fairer than asking your daughter to pay once she's earning that higher salary?

sociallyacceptable Wed 31-May-17 09:15:04

From what I read on here. Students are heavily subsidised by parents when they are at university.

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad Wed 31-May-17 09:16:01

I think the OP's point is not who introduced them but the fact that Labour are going to abolish them if they get into power.
Her mother voting Tory shows a lack of support for the abolishment of tuition fees which would mean if her granddaughter goes to university as OP's mother wants her to do then she will leave in debt.
I can see your logic OP and I would certainly (jokingly) go along with your suggestion.

SunEgg Wed 31-May-17 09:16:11

YANBU. People don't seem to realise that in a democracy every single person's vote counts. People should be making decisions based on what they believe is best for everyone, not just themselves.

Under Labour, if you were from a mid/low income family, you were given a 3K bursary which covered the fees which were 3K. Under Torys, the bursary was scrapped, and fees escalated to 9K per year! It is ridiculous that students are under Torys left with at least 30-40K debt!!

Firenight Wed 31-May-17 09:17:09

Your daughter is very lucky to have a grandmother who encourages her.

jojo2916 Wed 31-May-17 09:17:26

But she won't pay a penny until she gets a well paid job, if she gets a well paid job surely she'll be happy to give back I certainly will be and I'm not a Tory voter.

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