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To ask how the NHS will be saved by labour

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mummytwoshoes Tue 09-May-17 12:16:35

Currently reading a lot of conservative bashing on FB etc about the privatisation of the NHS, I've seen the labour promise to 'save the NHS' but I haven't seen anything about how they will fund this. AIBU to ask if anyone knows?

mumblechum0 Tue 09-May-17 12:20:20

Increase the national debt I suspect.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Tue 09-May-17 12:21:09

Borrowing and higher taxes.

sparechange Tue 09-May-17 12:23:48

Higher taxes, more borrowing and then a fucktonne of excuses and blaming previous administrations when they realise they can't create the utopia they imagined once existed

WellErrr Tue 09-May-17 12:24:59

What spare said.

WineAndTiramisu Tue 09-May-17 12:25:36

Fairy dust and unicorns

WellErrr Tue 09-May-17 12:26:24

They're also going to 'take back the wealth' from the wealthy. Their words, like Corbyn is some ageing Robin Hood.
'Take back the wealth' eh?? Well we didn't take it, we earned it, so fuck off Corbyn.

Aeroflotgirl Tue 09-May-17 12:28:07

It won't more spending, like putting a Band Aid on a gaping wound. We have to take responsibility towards it, use it when we absolutely need it. Don't phone emergency services because the take away is closed, reduce your alcohol, eating, and smoking. Only use A&A for an absolute emergency, that sort of thing.

ajandjjmum Tue 09-May-17 12:28:30

Trouble is, history shows that as tax increases, less tax is collected.

Aeroflotgirl Tue 09-May-17 12:28:44

Take back the wealth, because someone worked hard and earned that.

Saucery Tue 09-May-17 12:31:06

Their bar for 'wealthy' is ridiculously low. They will end up taxing the fuck out of middle class people who have the audacity to have a decent job. And it still won't be enough, but hey, the politics of envy will be satisfied

FruitCider Tue 09-May-17 12:32:57

By increasing pay for NHS workers to make them want to stay working as HCPs, sounds like a pretty good start to me!

Aeroflotgirl Tue 09-May-17 12:37:58

I agree Saucery, we are not wealthy, we rely on dh income of £55k, but are taxed 40% on that already, if Labour get in, even more. So its not like they are targeting the million and billionaires , they are targeting the ordinary middle class.

MotherhoodFail Tue 09-May-17 12:39:58

Another little shake of the magic money tree, obviously. Haven't you read the manifesto?

And Fruit - would that be all clinical staff in the world's 5th largest employer? Because that's going to be a bit spenny...

Saucery Tue 09-May-17 12:43:05

If we fall for their shit they will flail about incompetently and put more and more of the burden on those earners. Plus most likely on small businesses etc. It won't be worth climbing that career ladder.

Tomorrowillbeachicken Tue 09-May-17 12:44:52

They started the privatisation though. DS was sent to a private hospital when they were still in power to get care as waiting lists were too big.

Tomorrowillbeachicken Tue 09-May-17 12:46:17

And lots of the infrastructure rebuilding started under them.

justkeepswimmingg Tue 09-May-17 12:47:24

Really wish there was a separate topic to post in for politics/elections. There's so many going on in AIBU at the moment!

I agree with you OP though. It very frustrating with all this conservative bashing and labour encouraging when we don't actually know true facts.

Aero - were the same as you finance wise, and I'd really rather them not take any more 'tax' from us. We need that money to survive, and I don't want to have to struggle if a money grabbing party wins.

I'm still not sure who I'm voting for, but I wish there were more facts, rather than hear says about what they are planning to do if either parties at elected etc. Think I'm swaying more to conservatives to be honest, but we need more truth.

Gowgirl Tue 09-May-17 12:48:05

By scrapping parking charges and taxing the rich you know anyone earning over 70 k hmm

FruitCider Tue 09-May-17 12:48:25

motherhood do you feel £22k is high enough pay for junior doctors/nurses? Is £16k enough for mental health support workers who are literally kicked and spat at?

FruitCider Tue 09-May-17 12:50:42

I agree Saucery, we are not wealthy, we rely on dh income of £55k, but are taxed 40% on that alread

You are not taxed at 40% on the whole 55k though, are you? Its also more than twice the national average salary.

muckypup73 Tue 09-May-17 12:50:48

MotherhoodFail, that is exactly what mypartner says, Corbyn and his magic money tree, lol.

I am getting so feckin fed up with people on my facebook page thinking the sun shines out his arse!! how can they see he is not credible??

Ginormoustrawberry Tue 09-May-17 12:52:07

He'll use the golden egg laying unicorns he keeps in his back garden #hasntgotaclue

BishopBrennansArse Tue 09-May-17 12:52:36

Yep cos only Labour increase the national debt

Ginormoustrawberry Tue 09-May-17 12:53:30

No FruitCider they aren't taxed 40% on the whole £55k and yes, it may well be "double the national average" - do you have an issue with that?

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