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AIBU - Video of alleged paedophile getting abuse

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SparklyFairyDust · 01/05/2017 03:05

I saw a video today that many were sharing, of a man with apparent learning difficulties, mental health issues, low mental age, who appeared to have little support due to how unkempt he was, being evicted from a green park, by a man who alleges that the man is a paedophile, despite others saying he isn't on any registers.

I thought to query this as I wasn't the only person to notice what I mention above. Some actually commented how viewing made them feel uncomfy, the man had obvious issues, such comments getting 500+ likes. So there was a fair few who felt it wasn't on. Especially since the mans label of it being a friendly eviction, involved the man who kicked the guy out the park saying, 'You're lucky today!' Like should it have been a different day physical violence may have been involved. Plus a, '...friendly warning to leave the area if he knows what's good for him!'

I just feel bad that it's apparent the man has difficulties, yet no apparent support. I also feel bad because I'm in two minds, he's allegedly a paedophile, but he has very obvious problems. People taking things into their own hands, is that the way to go?

It looked liked a large green park with trees, he was sat alone on a bench, not bothering anyone. He responded to questions, but you would have to question did he fully know what he was being asked. Also wouldn't it have been better to call the police about such an issue, not decide that you'll deal with the situation yourself.

I've only posted this because I'm honestly in two minds, but like others who posted on the video, gaining a lot (550+) of likes. There's others out there who feel the man wasn't getting the help he needed. Some queried if he was causing harm sitting alone. It's conflicting when you feel sorry for someone, yet you know deep inside that it's a terrible thing to be accused of.

If you saw someone in the same situation, you could see that they had the mental age of a child, learning difficulties, potential mental health issues, they weren't looking after themselves, would you feel sorry for them in such a circumstance, if a member of the public took to evicting them, when they weren't causing harm.

It was really hard to watch. I'm starting to think I'm getting too soft. My thoughts were, he possibly didn't ask to be housed in that area, now he's alone, vulnerable and scared, due to this mans threat.

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randomuntrainedcuntowner · 01/05/2017 03:09

Yes, the authorities should be involved. Because they will know the history of this person. Trial by Facebook is not adequate. Of course.

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WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 01/05/2017 03:12

I haven't seen the video, but people really shouldn't take matters into their own hands, whether this man was a paedophile or not. That way leads down a very slippery road.

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Flowerbunty · 01/05/2017 03:30

I have seen this video and feel the exact same as you do OP. It made for very uncomfortable viewing for the exact reasons you have stated.

I personally felt that the man was ambushed and probably would have agreed to anything that was thrown at him.

However, I am unsure as to how anyone was able to check he wasn't on the register as I couldn't see his name in the post or comments section anywhere. But on the same turn, how does the maker of the video know that he IS a paedophile as supposedly there is no name on the register? Did this bully just pick on a man for his vulnerabilities?

Whether this man is guilty or not, his face has been plastered over the internet and favebook vigilantes will do their work. I have no doubt about that. He is in an area with a lot of undesirable characters. I can only hope that someone has reported the whole situation to the police, as they have a duty of care to make sure this man is safe.

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SparklyFairyDust · 01/05/2017 03:39

That's what I thought that the parties on either side, who think that they are vigilantes to save the day, could give this man a load of grief. I'm guessing they said he's not on any registers because some of them know his name.

I'm glad I'm not alone on this as it really got to me. People are going crazy about the videoing of bullying on the internet, in my mind what I saw was nothing different. I'm like you thinking that he felt threatened and intimidated and would have said, 'Yes the grass in pink!' If it got the man to leave him alone.

I hope the authorities do something as I really worry about what could happen next. It was pretty vile how pleased the man felt with himself. Especially the, do you want some advice, you should leave the area, comments. Like they have houses on tap to move people to. Thanks to everyone sharing like mad, is there anywhere he would be safe. Sad

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SparklyFairyDust · 01/05/2017 03:49

Just seen an update from a well known page, saying that the man definitely isn't on any registers, he's sadly had significant life long mental health issues.

Hopefully the Twat who made and shared the video, achieves some good in getting the man help.

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SparklyFairyDust · 01/05/2017 03:50

This is a very powerful image, it was taken in London last night! A mentally ill man on the verge of taking his own life, surrounded by people urging him not to! These people are heroes, they're talking to the guy, pleading with him, you can clearly see them holding him, they have him tied to the bridge while waiting for the emergency services to arrive.

That's what mentally ill people need HELP!

Its a very striking and emotional image on so many levels! The distress, the panic but it's also reassuring to think that someone cares enough to intervene and help!

Forward 24 hours to Belfast

There's a video doing the rounds of a mentally ill man in Cranmore Park who is being accused of being a Paedophile.

The video shows the 'CLEARLY' sick man being removed from the park by a man who, if the allegation against this man is true, has decided to film his feats and post on Facebook.

I have children, I know this post and issue is divisive but if it's justice you seek, a mobile phone is first and foremost a PHONE!

Phone the fuckin PEELERS! Law & Order is their job, not fucking yours!

I have since learned the man in the video is not on the sex offenders register and has suffered with life long mental health issues.

Fuck Facebook justice!

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Flowerbunty · 02/05/2017 11:41

The strangest thing- I'm guessing he has been moved for his own safety. I have just served him about 30 mins away from where the video was shot.
I can confirm there are very obvious mental disabilities, even just taking his hygiene into account.
I felt so sorry for him as it was blatantly obvious people were talking and pointing at him the whole time.

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Pinkheart5917 · 02/05/2017 11:49

Trail by random people thinking they are doing good to be put online is a slippery slope, the proper authorities have to deal with these things if there is indeed anything wrong going on.

Also I don't think anything the accused said on a video would be used as eveidence as you've been under duress and especially if scared most people will say anything to make you leave them alone.

Also it's not a crime for a man or women to sit somewhere that has a park

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PhyllisNights · 02/05/2017 11:52

And this is exactly why I don't think the dark justice paedophile hunters are a good idea. Nothing worse than a load of vigilantes getting involved with no processed followed and no one supervising what they do.

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Karanka · 02/05/2017 12:25

Nothing worse than a load of vigilantes getting involved with no processed followed and no one supervising what they do.

They are nothing but bullies who enjoy being able to push someone around.

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SumThucker · 02/05/2017 12:28

Sad I hate vigilantes on Facebook or anywhere.

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nauticant · 02/05/2017 12:31

This is what happens when vigilantes follow their instincts:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-25122280

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SparklyFairyDust · 02/05/2017 13:13

Did he seem ok or none the wiser about what that idiot had done?

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TheCraicDealer · 02/05/2017 13:41

This type of stuff makes me cringe, and it's always the same people on my friend lists who are incapable of any degree of critical thinking share these posts. Although to be fair, the one girl I saw share it had another friend comment, "he clearly has learning difficulties, poor man", before she took it down.

Who did that guy think he was, accusing someone of that and 'escorting' them out of the park? What gave him the right to act as judge and jury? There's a police station a five minute walk away- if he was that concerned all he needed to do was call the number and say "there's a man acting suspiciously in the park" and the PSNI would've been round like a shot. But I suppose he couldn't have videoed and shared that on FB for likes and shares Hmm

It's things like this that also perpetuate the myth that peadophiles are 'dirty old men' skulking around parks in filthy macs, that you can pick them out of a crowd of people. That's simply not true.

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Flowerbunty · 02/05/2017 13:55

He seemed ok, he did waffle about things being up the left because he's "lost his housekey" and asked if his phone battery was about to die (it was 3/4 full).

I just felt over whelmingly sad. His hygiene was very poor so it's evident that he's been badly let down by the care system along the way.

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helpimitchy · 02/05/2017 14:13

This sounds like a horrible situation Sad people shouldn't go around doing things like this. There are going to be increasing numbers of vulnerable people on the streets as time goes on, due to the cuts. If awful people start targeting them then it'll be like the bloody dark ages with witch hunts.

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picklemepopcorn · 02/05/2017 14:19

Hopefully you all reported the FB post for inciting violence and infringement of privacy? It doesn't always work, but often does.

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picklemepopcorn · 02/05/2017 14:19

Reported to FB I mean?

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Flowerbunty · 02/05/2017 14:56

I reported it.

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SparklyFairyDust · 02/05/2017 16:07

I think the tw*t took it down as when I saw it, the prevailing comments were, this guy is ill you are so wrong. A bit like what I said to someone if he'd been asked to say the grass is pink he would have, I'm sure.

The thing is people get moved all over the place, so how do you know who is what? Luckily a woman who works at his Day centre said he was a service user and would agree to anything.

I felt really bad because a friend shared it, it distressed me, but overall people were sharing angry faces via the like button, so I didn't feel confident enough to say are you really sure? I just reported it to FB.

The guy who decided mob justice was the way forward is a wealthy businessman. I really hope the PSNI catch up with him, intimidating vulnerable persons as he did.

What got me what when a group highlighted it was wrong, some eejits continued to bleat, but he said he was one. Completely missing the point that the guy is not on any registers.

You just have to pray that either vigilante group, takes heed of the fact the guy isn't well, before dishing out their own mob justice. Hopefully the social will do more to help him.

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