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AIBU?

AIBU to beg you not to bet on the Grand National? It's animal abuse.

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hhorvath · 08/04/2017 16:25

Please think about what you're condoning.

www.google.co.uk/search?q=grand+national+deaths&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhieOLlZXTAhUCOxoKHTDFDagQ_AUICSgC&biw=1366&bih=638

www.independent.co.uk/voices/grand-national-races-animal-cruelty-get-rid-of-dangerous-jump-a7672131.html

"It’s time for the Grand National again – that curious time of year when people who claim to like horses gather to exploit them, often hurting and killing them in the process.

Since 2000, 48 horses have died at the annual festival that the National is part of. Others have suffered horribly with broken backs, necks or legs, severed tendons, or heart attacks. This is the reality of British horse racing."

If you use this as entertainment, the blood of murdered horses is on your hands as well.

Would you bet on a race where human beings fell and broke their legs or necks and had to be shot? At least they would have consented. Horses cannot consent to this life.

Would you be "fine" with it as long as it hadn't happened since 2012, despite horses dying after the race from their injuries since then?

Please don't be dazzled by the so-called glamour of this bloodsport.

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LookAtTheFlowersKerry · 08/04/2017 16:27

I agree with this 100%. It's barbaric.

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Trifleorbust · 08/04/2017 16:27

YANBU. I'd love to bet but it is cruel.

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IamAporcupine · 08/04/2017 16:28

Agree 100%

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BonnyScotland · 08/04/2017 16:28

I've placed a bet ... as have my kids and husband... x

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Fruitcocktail6 · 08/04/2017 16:29

YANBU, I will not participate in any way.

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Snap8TheCat · 08/04/2017 16:29

It starts in less than an hour, probably a bit late now.

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Wando1986 · 08/04/2017 16:29

It's much less cruel than eating a chicken or a frying off a nice tasty steak. YABU. Sod off.

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Birdsgottaf1y · 08/04/2017 16:29

An average of three horses per national race meeting dies.

However, changing the Specism that most people apply, is an impossible fight.

The same people who bet on the races boo-hoo over the 'dog festivals' and bull fighting, not to mention the one Gorilla that had to be shot.

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StillDrivingMeBonkers · 08/04/2017 16:31

Betting is not abusive.

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hhorvath · 08/04/2017 16:31

Wando I'm vegan. So I don't do either.

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CocoTart · 08/04/2017 16:32

We all love the national. My entire family put a bet on, even the kids and we all get together to watch it while having a little party.

Not planning on stopping, although I do understand others are against it.

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SpreadYourHappiness · 08/04/2017 16:32

I'm not betting on it, but it's not animal abuse. In 2013 they changed the fences to make them safer, and no horses have died at the Grand National since then.

All this hysteria is ridiculous.

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hhorvath · 08/04/2017 16:32

Still I guess watching child porn isn't abusive then, as you're not directly doing it, just causing demand?

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Emerald123 · 08/04/2017 16:32

100%agree. I won't be on animal abuse.

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hhorvath · 08/04/2017 16:32

It's sad that people would raise children to think that it's okay to exploit animals.

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Verticalvenetianblinds · 08/04/2017 16:33

Oh fuck off. Don't be so preachy about something you know so little about. Yabu and goady.
Why have I just read a thread about eating meat and now this? We must be bored of criticising parenting and mil's so moved onto animal cruelty.

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EatSpamAmandaLamb · 08/04/2017 16:33

Are you ethical in all elements of your life? I find many (not all) people who shove their vegan ways down the throats of people they don't know tend to have dubious shopping lists containing plants, oils and clothing air freighted across the world and made or picked by humans paid a pittance.

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hhorvath · 08/04/2017 16:34

All this hysteria is ridiculous

I rather think that the ridiculous ones are those who are hysterically excited to watch a load of abused animals race round a track for the sake of making grotesque amounts of money for a few people without consciences.

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hhorvath · 08/04/2017 16:34

EatSpam Nice deflection. It's easy to attack people who are actually making an effort than to look at your own life.

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Squirmy65ghyg · 08/04/2017 16:34

Yanbu.

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SpreadYourHappiness · 08/04/2017 16:35

You're coming from a place of ignorance.

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klondikecookie · 08/04/2017 16:36

Horse racing is gross, YANBU.

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EatSpamAmandaLamb · 08/04/2017 16:37

I didn't say I take part in the betting, I just asked if you're ethical in every area of your life. Not deflection.

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finnmcool · 08/04/2017 16:37

I personally don't bet on any horse racing due to my own feelings. All my friends bet on the Grand National, they know my feelings but we don't fall out over it.
I have very strong opinions on lots of things, I talk about it, but I wouldn't have the arrogance to lecture anyone.
Most adults make choices based on what they are comfortable with and don't appreciate being lectured.
I think the "why do you eat meat" thread is a good example.

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