AIBU to wonder if a reference can be challenged

[user1491565842]

Much or what is claimed about me is highly subjective but unfortunately it's impeding me moving on professionally.

AIBU to wonder if anything can be done?

[Kelsoooo]

Don't put them as a reference?

[user1491565842]

I have to due to safer recruitment policies (I am a teacher!)

[StatisticallyChallenged]

Being a teacher makes it tricky I'd imagine; not sure about the teaching specific rules bit we've just had a new version of safer recruitment issued complete with sample reference forms which are really detailed and quite subjective. And we are obliged by our code of conduct to complete the damn things

Have you got a copy of what has actually been said?

[user1491565842]

Yes, it makes reference to something I was accused of but was later completely cleared of but of course by referencing it it makes it seem I did it, and I didn't.

[Emphasise]

They are specifically asked and duty bound to disclose any accusations, proven or otherwise. I dont know how it's legal, but it appears to be so. In the name of protecting children from people "everyone" knew about but nothing proven, I suppose.

[Emphasise]

That said,there's plenty of opportunity for them to say the accusations were thoroughly investigated and disproved. Definitely challenge it if they're not doing that

[user1491565842]

Thanks :)

[StatisticallyChallenged]

I'd agree, they should annotate the accusation with the outcome in some way so it's clear that although the accusation was made it was not upheld.

[user1491565842]

Hmm well they sort of have but in a way that suggests it wasn't proved but I was still 'guilty' and I wasn't!

[ilovesooty]

Have you involved your union?

[user1483387154]

Ask for a copy and involve the union.

[flumpybear]

Union!!! I can't believe
That's allowed if it was found to be untrue!!

[Emphasise]

How have they answered the question about being fit to work with children?

[BigGrannyPants]

I'm not sure they can make reference to something that was found not to be true, that seems constructive to me and perhaps a matter for a grievance

[Trifleorbust]

Reiterate - go your union immediately.

[user1491565842]

Union are not very helpful I'm afraid.

[user1491565842]

Sorry that was a bit short and looked irritable and abrupt and I am but with the situation not your good selves

[Emphasise]

They can Biggranny. Child protection rules require that they do.

[Allthebestnamesareused]

Threaten legal action against them (and indeed carry it out if you ever find you have lost a position over this). The reason why many companies will only give "confirmation" references ie. confirm they worked here as a (blank) between (Dates) is because they can be liable if they lie!

Maybe at interview pre-empt it when they say is there anything else?

Well yes, actually I understand from another prospective employer that they say this in my reference. I would like you to know that I was entirely cleared of this but I think they have been very disingenuous with their response.

[Trifleorbust]

user1491565842 :

Why isn't the union helping? They should be able to advise you on how you can challenge this.

[BoneyBackJefferson]

BigGrannyPants

Accusations leave alsorts of shadows on a teacher's reference

[Emphasise]

Teaching is different, though all allegations have to be included in a reference, even if they've been discounted. It's the why all references have to come from the head, because there may be allegations no-one else in school is aware of

[worriedmum100]

In theory you can legally challenge a reference if it is negligent, misleading or defamatory. You need to seek legal advice and your union should assist.

[ilovesooty]

Have you taken the situation to your union regional rep?

[user1491565842]

The union just say the reference is correct which technically it is. But it is the way it is worded.

The same Head also called my colleague 'difficult'.