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NDN CCTV facing only our back garden

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Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 00:09:36

Posted in legal aswell but here for traffic,

Relations with NDN have been tense shall we say for some time.
Petty comments over the fence to us, windchines on window to 'annoy next door by keeping the baby awake' us being next door.

After 2 car break ins on my drive before Christmas we were advised to install CCTV, which we did, front and back.

Gone into our garden tonight and noticed NDN has installed two CCTV cameras at the back of her house hidden inside the rooms facing directly onto our shared fence and my garden. Only noticed them as they glow red at night.

Not facing towards the end of their garden, directly facing ours.

I have a small child that likes to play in the garden and now feel as though I can't let her out without her being recorded.

Is this legal?

Meekonsandwich Mon 03-Apr-17 00:13:50

Im pretty sure you can't record your neighbours daily goings on as it's invasion of privacy,
Especially blatantly like this, it would be different if they were recording their back garden and a bit of yours was in the frame, so I'd be contacting the non emergency police line for advice smile

AprilSkies44 Mon 03-Apr-17 00:16:06

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 00:29:30

Think I'm going to call 101 in the morning. Feel like I can't go out in the back garden atall at the moment. Dont really know why she's being like this.

JonesyAndTheSalad Mon 03-Apr-17 00:32:30

Have I got this right? You've got CCTV front and back but are annoyed they've installed some at the back too?

JonesyAndTheSalad Mon 03-Apr-17 00:33:10

I would put up trellis on the fence, then grow something fast growing up it to obscure their windows from my garden.

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 00:35:45

How zero issue with using CCTV to protect your own house. Have a HUGE issue with installing CCTV only at the back of their house, hiding the camera inside behind blinds, facing directly at my garden No CCTV at the front, and none facing towards their access to their own property but straight onto my garden, both cameras.

ExplodedCloud Mon 03-Apr-17 00:36:35

Stick up a big sign on a pole, obviously in your garden, with "Why are you filming us?"

Wikky Mon 03-Apr-17 00:38:56

How on earth can you see them if they are hidden inside their house. confused The red lights could be motion detectors? I'd be even more suprised that you can tell that they are pointing towards your house? Indoor ones are usually small.

JonesyAndTheSalad Mon 03-Apr-17 00:39:15

Where does your back CCTV face OP?

AntiHop Mon 03-Apr-17 00:40:30

They are definitely being unreasonable.
Have you tried talking to them about it? Of relations are already bad then getting the police involved before you've tried talking to them is not going to help.

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 00:42:55

Ours in central on the back of our house facing directly down the end of our garden, misses about 30cm either side at the end as had to adjust the view to ensure it didn't encroach on either neighbours.

Only noticed theirs as had to go in to the garden to get DHS jeans off of the washing line and can clearly see the red ring of the CCTV camera faving straight at or garden.

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 00:44:50

Bearing in mind it's pitch black outside a glowing red ring facing my garden is pretty obvious. Their is one down stairs and one upstairs inside of the window behind the blinds. It's obviously pointing towards our house, their garden is wider on the side furthest from us, the camera is in the top corner of the window. On the side furthest from us pointing towards us.

Shoxfordian Mon 03-Apr-17 16:22:44

Tell the neighbour that this makes them a data controller and they should register with the ICO
ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/

Also ask for access to your personal data via a subject access request grin

DoorsAndWater Mon 03-Apr-17 16:36:50

No they shouldn't be placing CCTV that directly films your property, I deal with this a lot at work and get the local pcso to have a word with them, as above this makes them a data controller and they need to register as pp suggests. You are allowed to install cctv as long as it is to protect your property only and films your own garden/driveway etc

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 16:57:26

Police came out today showed them the phot DH had of the camera in position, the one downstairs is fully working but only captures the fences which is fine the one upstairs is a fake camera and doesn't record anything. So all ok for the moment although she did tell the police officer she is planning to install a working camera upstairs but they advised her it can not be facing directly on our garden as the fake one is. She then tried to claim we had something to do with her dog passing away last year, which we didn't, have texts from her when we were speaking that clearly says he ate a mushroom from her garden.

ThePiglet59 Mon 03-Apr-17 17:00:49

They sound mental.
Good luck living next door to them.

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 17:02:23

The police officer said earlier that she appears quite paranoid and possibly has some mental illness, unfortunately we are both council tenants so only chance to move is try and get a transfer, however that will then inflict her on to someone else.

ZilphasHatpin Mon 03-Apr-17 17:17:10

Why on earth would anyone put a fake camera inside the window behind blinds? The only purpose of a fake camera is to be a visible deterrent to thieves. If it's hidden inside the house behind the blinds then it's not a visible deterrent. Also why would they have their other camera just recording their fence? confused suspect they are bullshitting.

Cuntingcancer Mon 03-Apr-17 17:33:09

As do I. But can't do anything about it now unless it changes. It's all just very odd and tbh slightly disturbing

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