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To think Rachel Dolezal is an utter charlatan

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MercyMyJewels Tue 28-Mar-17 10:23:00

twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/846410886671732736

Apparently there is a thing called transracial now.

What next, transbeastial?

IAmNotAWitch Tue 28-Mar-17 10:24:00

Makes as much sense as transexual.

FlyingElbows Tue 28-Mar-17 10:26:51

What there is is a thing called "delusional".

Sodomeyes Tue 28-Mar-17 10:28:09

Makes as much sense as transexual

^THIS

My DH has said for ages that he's transpecieal. He's actually a wood pigeon trapped in a pasty, chubby civil servants' body. If only the NHS would fund the operation to have his arms turned into wings he could be what he'd always meant to be.

Doyouwantabrew Tue 28-Mar-17 10:28:53

Load of old bollocks just like non binary nonsense.

You are born a man or a woman with a few exceptions.

What you choose to call yourself after or how you dress is entirely up to you but a man in a dress is still a man just like brown/white/black fling is what it is.

Has she a book out? Never heard of her she sounds an idiot.

Doyouwantabrew Tue 28-Mar-17 10:29:48

sodom that made me laugh.

And don't get me started on this cis woman bollocks

floraeasy Tue 28-Mar-17 10:30:12

I've always felt I was meant to be a cat.

I'm holding out for reincarnation though.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed Tue 28-Mar-17 10:31:06

a white woman who is now making money from being found out that she isn't black or of mixed heritage making lots of money and publicity from being found out and writing a book about it

as many men are earning money and fame from claiming they are women

peaceloveandbiscuits Tue 28-Mar-17 10:31:41

Transracial now? A few years ago she was trying to convince the world she was black.

Doyouwantabrew Tue 28-Mar-17 10:34:24

Yes if I had to reincarnate I would choose a pampered cat too.

Mine rule our house

Northernlurker Tue 28-Mar-17 10:34:24

Dh has also been of the opinion he's a cat in human form for a long time. He's even speculated on what the appropriate social rules would be for use of the the tail. I think he's actually got quite a good case. Must tell him to declare himself transfeline.

HecateAntaia Tue 28-Mar-17 10:36:11

So what is this? Now if you are born black you are cis black and must step aside for those who identify as black and you shouldn't say that actually they are not black?

Sorry, not going to happen. She is white. She is not black. She will never be black. She can feel it as much as she likes. I can feel I'm a unicorn that shits rainbows, it doesn't make it true.

I wonder if a black person said hey, I identify as white, whether they would hop into the experience of being white with all the privilege that comes with it.

Somehow I doubt it.

KingJoffreysRestingCuntface Tue 28-Mar-17 10:36:31

I'm Transfat.

Size 16 but identify as a size 10.

You all need to tell me how toned my arms are.

FlyingDuck Tue 28-Mar-17 10:36:47

I watched that clip, and then piece afterwards in the studio with Guilane Kinouani, who was emphatic that there is no comparison between 'transracialism' and transgenderism. And yet the issues she spoke about to criticise Dolezal's stance - white privilege, lived experience etc - are the same ones that can be used to object to the position that transwomen are women.

No one has really come up with a good argument as to why the issues are different.

NotCarylChurchill Tue 28-Mar-17 10:37:09

Transracial is not comparable to transgender (and please let's not turn this until trans-bashing thread 477363884).

I suppose it's possible someone might genuinely believe themselves to be another race, but she is not one of them.

She has a long history of lying and scamming including faking cancer. She spent her entire adult life up to the age of 28/29 claiming that black people got all the breaks and that she as a white woman was being discriminated against for being white. So she obviously doesn't believe she's black.

She was nearly 30 when she first started pretending to be black and it started when she applied for a financial reward only open to BAME applicants. She dyed and permed her naturally blonde straight and artificially darkened her skin. She told her black adopted siblings that she was pretending to be black and asked them to lie that they were her blood siblings. She passed off photos of an unrelated black man as being her real father.

She also made up a lot of insane lies about growing up in "Africa" where she lived in "a teepee" and had to hunt her own food with a bow and arrow. Except it came out she's never been to any country in Africa.

She is pathological liar and this is just the latest in a long line of scams. She knows full well she's not black. If she genuinely regarded herself as transracial or black on the inside she wouldn't be lying about her relatives or using her "blackness" for financial gain.

DaemonPantalaemon Tue 28-Mar-17 10:37:24

I like Rachel Dolezal because she exposes the Trans movement. If sex/gender are fluid and non-binary, why can't race be fluid and non-binary?

OnionKnight Tue 28-Mar-17 10:38:26

I think she's mentally ill, didn't she change her name or something recently? I read that she was using a different name for job applications.

MercyMyJewels Tue 28-Mar-17 10:38:45

CisBlack people have to check their cis-black privilege

isupposeitsverynice Tue 28-Mar-17 10:38:58

Why is it not comparable to transgender, though? Please explain this in simple terms I'm not feeling terribly bright this morning. Thanks

NotCarylChurchill Tue 28-Mar-17 10:39:00

^Naturally straight blonde hair, sorry.

originalbiglymavis Tue 28-Mar-17 10:39:01

You either is or you isn't. You can't will yourself another race no can you have an operation to remove the​ offending genes.

She is a fraud. She lied and if she didn't mess with her body and hair, she'd be as white as milk. Very odd. It's not as if she was brought up in Africa or Jamaica etc. She is latching​ onto a US version of 'black' which covers a lot of territory.

Did she say where 'her family' were supposed to originate from?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed Tue 28-Mar-17 10:41:18

it is comparable to trans because it is about a feeling

not based on biological facts

the biological facts can not be ignored because they can not be changed and they impact our lives and society

NotCarylChurchill Tue 28-Mar-17 10:42:43

You "like" a delusional liar with a history of scamming and faking cancer? Really? Is your hatred of trans people really that intense?

I forgot to mention above that she has a police history of faking hate crimes which is a serious offence and means people who genuinely report hate crimes are less likely to be believed. So she's not only directly taking money and jobs from BAMErs she's making it less safe for them to report racial abuse. She also has a history of plagiarism and was accused of racism and racial harassment (against black students) back before she started "identifying" as black herself.

isupposeitsverynice Tue 28-Mar-17 10:43:23

What biological facts?

isupposeitsverynice Tue 28-Mar-17 10:44:14

Sorry EnthusiasmisDisturbed I misread your post thought you were saying biological facts is why it wasn't comparable

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