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AIBU?

to say something about 6 week old's sleeping conditions?

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AppleFlapjack · 25/03/2017 08:44

A school mum has just posted a picture of her newborn asleep in his cot and Im really shocked.

The baby has a pillow and duvet and is tucked in at the top of the cot Sad the mum is a smoker which makes her higher risk for sids regardless so its playing on my mind.

Should I just mind my own buisness or bring it up with her?

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snotato · 25/03/2017 08:47

I think I would have to bring it up with her.imagine how you would feel if a couple weeks down the line the baby died and you hadn't said anything.
it would obviously be awkward to bring up if you don't know her well.but just say that was a lovely photo,but they advise that babies don't have pillows and sleep with their feet at the bottom of the cot now.?

Ojoj1974 · 25/03/2017 08:47

Very tricky as people are so defensive. However, how stupid is this woman???? duvet and pillow for a new born???
Yes I would say something

TheShapeofYou · 25/03/2017 08:50

I'd have to PM her, but word it carefully. I've done this with an old school friend, whom I haven't seen in years, who had her tiny baby in a carrier too low down (baby was same height as Mum's belly button; I'd just seen info that said you should always be able to kiss the top of baby's head).

Good luck.

Soubriquet · 25/03/2017 08:52

Ah that's a hard one

No one likes being told that they are putting their children in danger...

But I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if the baby died either

LouiseTM · 25/03/2017 09:00

I think you should try bring it up casually you know not be too out straight about it, there is nothing worse than someone telling you whats right for YOUR baby. But definitely say something as she might not know the dangers.

notcreative23 · 25/03/2017 09:17

I would send a private message and say you saw an article recently saying it was dangerous etc. People get very defensive and upset over parenting comments so you need to make sure you aren't sounding like a "know it all" or that you're superior or anything. I know it's common sense to not have these things in the cot with a newborn, but it still could make her mad to be confronted about it.

EB123 · 25/03/2017 09:39

I had something very similar a few years ago and I did say something (nicely). I just couldn't not say anything incase something happened to the baby.
The person in question was actuality fine about it and grateful for the info on safe sleeping because she had just done what her family had advised her to do. I think that is what happens a lot, the same with early weaning etc x

AppleFlapjack · 25/03/2017 10:52

She is quite an opinionated woman and I can imagine her getting defensive but as you say I wouldnt forgive myself if something happened to the baby.

I felt sick looking at the picture, her tiny little face popping out between the pillow and duvet, at the very top of the cot (large cot bed!) Full of teddys Sad

Its just how I go about saying it without upsetting her or looking like a know it all.

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ClaireFraser · 25/03/2017 11:40

What about sending her a PM saying something along the lines of "congratulations on your beautiful baby, thought you might be interested in the NHS guidelines for safe sleeping for babies" and then provide a link to the nhs page.

You run the risk of her mouthing off at you still, but better that than to just say nothing, at least then she has the info to make a decision. One kind of assumes that in this day and age everything knows about safe sleeping, but if you don't have much contact with babies, it's your first and you haven't read the info in your maternity pack, then I suppose it could pass some people by.

I'd have to say something if it were me, I'd never be able to forgive myself if something happened to the baby and she had been carrying on in blissful ignorance of how dangerous it is.

Trainspotting1984 · 25/03/2017 11:43

It's a difficult one. I would say if at all, it has to be done by PM and no links. Present in very casual manner "I remember mid wife made a huge thing about no duvets- have you checked it's ok?" Bit innocent. If she thinks you're a patronising know it all she'll ignore you and want even more to carry on as she was

AHedgehogCanNeverBeBuggered · 25/03/2017 11:54

I agree send a link to the NHS guidelines, you cant just say nothing Sad

notcreative23 · 25/03/2017 12:01

I actually think what trainspotting said is good! Say something like that!

PenelopeFlintstone · 25/03/2017 12:03

She won't listen though. I private messaged a 16 year old mum very, very gently once about the full size pillow under their baby's head. She just replied that he couldn't sleep without a pillow Same as you - I knew at least I'd tried.

Tiggerific1984 · 25/03/2017 12:04

I put DD in her moses basket at the bottom with a blanket firmly tucked in and she still got under it. That was the last time she got a blanket. Now she's 4 months old and in her cot and she still doesn't get blankets. She is in a sleeping bag.

I would tell her.

haveacupoftea · 25/03/2017 12:05

"Aw so cute, i used to take photos like this of my LO, such a pain taking all the stuff out of the cot after the picture though before they go to sleep but the things we do xx"

If you're lucky its a staged picture and she'll say i know such a pain but worth it to keep safe blah blah. If not she'll say why did you take everything out and you can say ooh did the midwife not tell you no pillows/teddies and post link to the guidelines.

Worst she can do is ignore it in which case she knows as well as you do she is putting her child at risk and will continue to do it anyway.

laurzj82 · 25/03/2017 12:08

Imagine if you don't tell her and something happens...Sad

Can you say something like I saw your photo and remembered I was told blah blah link to guidelines. I didn't know either! Our something like that..?

Oysterbabe · 25/03/2017 12:11

I agree it's probably a staged picture and not how the baby actually sleeps.

Sparklyuggs · 25/03/2017 12:11

I'd send her a link to an article (NHS/Tommy's/Lullaby Trust) with the guidelines. She might tell you to f off, mind your own business etc but at least you have done what you can do to protect that tiny little baby.

It's so hard with the guidelines changing, I'm due in July and feel like a broken record explaining to well meaning relatives that cuddly toys, duvets and pillows are very unsafe for a newborn.

MontysTiredMummy · 25/03/2017 12:28

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DubiousCredentials · 25/03/2017 12:38

Could you say "ooh the sleep safety guidelines must have changed since mine were babies - and your dd looks adorable on that pillow etc. Mine were never allowed because of sids guidelines" or something faux innocent like that?

Trainspotting1984 · 25/03/2017 12:42

I would Complain to John Lewis- why the hell are they selling them if they're so bad their staff are telling people off for buying them?!

Trifleorbust · 25/03/2017 12:54

You probably do have to say something, but accept that she will think you are an interfering trout!

I would word it like, "Did your midwife speak to you about safe sleeping?" That way if she has already received the advice she can just tell you.

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AppleFlapjack · 25/03/2017 14:18

This is her second child, so I think she may be aware but maybe not, some great suggestions on how to word it!

I dont think it was staged as its a toddler pillow and quilt with childrens bedding on.

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Masketti · 25/03/2017 14:25

I told my DB he needed to get furniture fixings for the Malm dresser he had next to his son's bed. He ignored me despite me sending the US recall link. So I asked my DM to keep an eye on him for me. I couldn't say nothing but people are not always willing to listen.

passthewineplz · 25/03/2017 14:32

I'd say something similar to what DubiousCredentials has mentioned.

'Lovely photo! Baby looks lovely and snuggled up.

I was just wondering, has the baby sleeping guidelines changed? I thought that a pillow and duvet wasn't advised as it increases the risk of SIDS, as they can get too hot or wriggle under the covers'.

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