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AIBU to think they are paying too little? (nanny related)

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sunshineinthenorth Mon 06-Mar-17 23:08:55

I've started looking at live-in nanny jobs, and I came across an advert today which I think is unreasonable, yet I'm unsure of what a 'normal' nanny salary consists of.

The family in question want a live in nanny (provided with one bedroom in their house) who works 12.5 hour days, 5 days a week and babysits evenings twice a week too, as well as clean and dog walk.

copied from ad- duties include:
- Light housework
- Changing sheets
- Laundry and ironing
- Cooking for the whole family
- Running errands
- Be in the house when our daughter returns from school
- Taking our daughter to occasional appointments
- Babysitting once or twice a week
- Dog walking

for all this they will pay £150 a week. Is this reasonable? It doesn't even work out to minimum wage and it is central London based.

Aware I might be being slightly naive!

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:10:52

Of course it's not reasonable! It's shocking!

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:12:04

Sadly I see these quite a lot though. Was it on Gumtree?

Astoria7974 Mon 06-Mar-17 23:12:47

It's a live-in position right? So presume living costs are covered

PaperdollCartoon Mon 06-Mar-17 23:13:21

Yeh that's definitely not ok!

I think they think that's a reasonable Au Pair situation, rather than Nannying, for that pay. But Au Pairs shoudn't do anywhere that much.

PaperdollCartoon Mon 06-Mar-17 23:14:18

Astoria even with living costs covered you're expected to pay at least mimimum wage for the actual work done.

Astoria7974 Mon 06-Mar-17 23:14:31

Agree that they don't want a nanny they want an au pair. I pay my nanny £1000/mth for 4-6hours of work per day.

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:15:16

Even if living costs are covered, that's waayyy too low for the vast amount of hours they want worked. And I get the impression that the nanny is living-in for the convenience of the employer more than anything else.

QuackDuckQuack Mon 06-Mar-17 23:17:30

I doubt that it's legal. There is an exemption on minimum wage for au pairs, but this doesn't look like a au pair job.

babyunicornvomit Mon 06-Mar-17 23:18:01

That's only just over £2 an hour that's crazy!
Even factoring in that you get free accommodation in central London, that's obscenely low.
I'd say look how much renting a room in their areas would cost you and work out how much your living costs would be on minimum wage doing those hours. For example if minimum wage is £7.20 and you're doing the above hours (62.5 weekly) you'd be earning £450 a week, which is £1800 a month. Say it's £800 a month to flatshare in that area, that's £1000 you've got left, leaving out tax etc for now.
On what they're offering, you're getting £600 a month - this isn't a lot to live/travel etc in London!
^obviously do the sums more accurately but just to put it into perspective, for the hours they're asking this is peanuts!

Hairyfairy01 Mon 06-Mar-17 23:18:42

Is the child at school all day? If so it sounds ok to me.

babyunicornvomit Mon 06-Mar-17 23:19:47

Also re-reading the above it seems like they want a househelp-chef-nanny-dogwalker-cleaner... all for £150 a week? Nope.

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:20:15

Really *HairyFairy?

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:20:42

Bold fail- HairyFairy.

babyunicornvomit Mon 06-Mar-17 23:20:56

I assume the child is at school Hairyfairy but they expect her to walk the dogs, clean, change beds, cook etc during that time, so it should be paid.

sunshineinthenorth Mon 06-Mar-17 23:21:48

the child is at school but they want childcare before and after and cleaning/errands and dog walking in the day time

they also want the candidate to be a full time carer/cleaner in the holidays

Hairyfairy01 Mon 06-Mar-17 23:33:45

Maybe my expectations are low :-). Surely light housework, a bit of laundry and dog walking won't take all day so working it out by the hour isn't really fair? I'm thinking whoever gets the job must get quite a bit of free time, plus they are presumably getting there rent, food and bills included. To be honest I don't earn much more in the NHS and that's without the majority of my bills being paid (take home pay about £250 a week).

MontyPythonsFlyingFuck Mon 06-Mar-17 23:42:18

That's miles under NMW and IIRC you can only count a small amount of money (£6/day?) for living in, which takes it to the still-shit total of £192/wk. Who would one report them to? I thought NMW covered all employers?

Notcontent Mon 06-Mar-17 23:43:23

Ha, ha - they are basically looking for a live-in slave!

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:43:25

I don't see, from that list, where the 'free-time' would come in? It states 12.5 hours, 5 days a week.

Vermillioncomfyshoes Mon 06-Mar-17 23:50:33

I don't see how a nanny's duties can include walking a dog.

Surely that takes the job to a whole different level.

HakeLively Mon 06-Mar-17 23:51:49

In a nanny and I walk the dogs! I love waking the dogs grin

I get paid a proper wage, though.

TheWitTank Mon 06-Mar-17 23:52:29

Good grief. That's a shameful amount to offer for such a role.

MrsTerryPratchett Mon 06-Mar-17 23:54:22

They want a house elf.

Bastards.

Want2bSupermum Mon 06-Mar-17 23:57:24

A nanny is there to provide childcare not clean the house, walk the dog, change sheets or cook for the family.

They are looking for a student who can help them out during the holidays with childcare not a nanny. They should be more specific. I expect 12.5 hours per week, not per day which is GBP8 per hour.

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