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Does Theresa not understand?

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Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Fri 24-Feb-17 19:33:40

Political parties do not win elections.

The other party looses them....

ChazsBrilliantAttitude Fri 24-Feb-17 19:39:08

The end result is the same so I doubt she cares. Like all previous PMs she'll take the credit.

ilovesooty Fri 24-Feb-17 19:41:25

I expect she understands a lot of things but simply doesn't care.

Bejazzled Fri 24-Feb-17 19:46:05

It's always the losers that say that isn't it?

GunnyHighway Fri 24-Feb-17 20:07:49

I think either can be true, but right now Corbyn is losing

ThroughThickAndThin01 Fri 24-Feb-17 20:09:55

YABU. That was a resounding victory, like it or not.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks Fri 24-Feb-17 20:11:12

I suspect thumbing her nose at Corbyn whilst singing "ner-ner you lost", or even the adult version "yeah we only won 'cause you're shit, but we still won" would be frowned upon.

kimann Fri 24-Feb-17 20:11:39

Yabu - they won.

SukeyTakeItOffAgain Fri 24-Feb-17 20:12:04

I'm furious with fucking Corbyn, and I'm not even a Labour voter. What a useless waste of space. He should just stick to leading Scunthorpe University's Socialist Workers or equivalent.

MiladyThesaurus Fri 24-Feb-17 20:19:33

Honestly, at the moment I'm struggling to remember that there is a Labour Party at all. It's like they're fading into utter obscurity.

Rhayader Fri 24-Feb-17 20:30:32

The first government bi-election gain since 1982 and the best result for a government in a bi-election since 1966. YABU.

PlayOnWurtz Fri 24-Feb-17 20:33:54

And THIS is why the public shouldn't be able to have a say in who leads a political party. Let those who know how politics works run politics

RortyCrankle Fri 24-Feb-17 21:11:47

Oh dear you must be a Labour supporter OP, so sad to be jealous grin

It has been over 35 years since a party in Government has won a by-election so Theresa May has every right to be thrilled with the Copeland result and say ya boo sucks to loser Corbyn.

Any more Labour MPs fancy resigning?

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Fri 24-Feb-17 22:53:26

Please don't do that again. I nearly spilled my wine all over my tablet.. Labour supporter? You must be joking. Most people who meet me say I make Atilla the Hun look caring and kind. That's before they get to know me...

It's the lies and spin that I get annoyed about. A good part of the result was a comment against Corbyn as much as a vote for the Tories. I could respect May a lot more if she had acknowledged that. As it is, she is trying to say something that many people know to not be true.

Basicbrown Fri 24-Feb-17 22:56:42

I think in general yab a bit u.

But in the Copeland case.... It is depressing that there is no real opposition at all. So yes it is failure on Labour's part rather than May's fab performance imo that is the deciding factor here.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer Fri 24-Feb-17 22:57:38

I agree with its

And i have voted tory in every election but one and would never vote labour

Neolara Fri 24-Feb-17 23:01:31

I agree with the op in that I don't think May's interpretation of the bye election victory as a ringing endorsement of her government is a particularly accurate assessment of the situation. On this occasion, I suspect the Conservative victory was mainly because of the utter shambles that is the opposition - both Labour and UKIP.

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Fri 24-Feb-17 23:03:08

To my thinking she is insulting all the possible swing voters at the next election. They know the real reason Labour lost. And to ignore that part sends a message of contempt for the ordinary person.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer Fri 24-Feb-17 23:05:26

And thats one of the things about mumsnet that pisses me off

Make a comment about labour losing and all of a sudden you are a disgruntled labour supporter

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard Fri 24-Feb-17 23:09:24

Isn't that the nature of party politics? Stop the other side from winning.

MaryMorpho Fri 24-Feb-17 23:31:22

Well I am a disgruntled labour supporter (disgruntled at Corbyn and his general crapness) and I think May is perfectly within her rights to celebrate a victory. It's an absolutely gobsmacking result and most definitely a "win" if the party in power takes a safe seat from the main opposition in a by-election.

I have no idea why voters who feel sidelined and austerity-struck should blame labour and not the tories confused but they did win.

MothersRuinart Fri 24-Feb-17 23:45:53

Ok so Sellafield and Trident won the vote in Copeland. Shouldn't be a huge surprise. Still disappointing though, I do think Tories cause more harm than good and feel other parties would have something better to offer, even in Copeland. But it's understandable that if you were in the area, you may not want to vote for a party whose leader is opposed to Trident and only recently (if I've understood correctly) supported Moorside. You may be mainly concerned about your job and so vote for that. With the Tories cutting everything and working towards privatising the NHS, having a secure job is vital. If only people would start to see that austerity is not working, Tory policies are ruining this country and MPs should seriously start opposing the government cutbacks. If only!

mummymeister Fri 24-Feb-17 23:47:52

I think that this is a blip result. the issue here was nuclear. everyone knows how anti corbyn is. he couldn't spin it any other way. that's one of the main reasons labour lost here imo.

It might happen in another by election but there would have to be an "issue" If Trees thought otherwise the tories would be making plans to call an election.

MaryMorpho Fri 24-Feb-17 23:53:51

And actually in a way, there is something kind of respectably old-school about them going for the tories instead of labour, and not UKIP.

Ncforthispost2005 Fri 24-Feb-17 23:56:54

It's not a blip, just read the polling results.

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