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Northcountrygirl16 Mon 20-Feb-17 22:29:14

Had an "altercation" at the train station this morning and neither of us exactly covered ourselves in glory.

So what happened was I was walking along the platform when this woman walked right in front of me. She literally stepped directly in front of me and carried on walking. We were both walking in the same direction and there was plenty of room for her to have walked to either side of me. It wasn't busy.

Anyway it caused me to slightly step on the back of her shoe. Because she literally walked underfoot of me. I had no chance to alter my stride in time because she was so close. Whilst I know it's annoying when people step on the back of your shoe it's not like I almost took it off or even caused her to stumble. In fact if I had been walking faster she would probably have tripped me or trod on my toes!

She spun round, glared at me and then whipped out her headphones to shout at me to "Say sorry!". I had sort of anticipated that she might apologise for cutting in front of me, and then I would have apologised for stepping on her shoe. Instead she was aggressive. I wasn't having a good morning so rather than meekly apologising like she wanted I told her that it was her own fault for cutting in front of me and that she should actually apologise to me, and try looking where she was going!

Rather embarrassingly looking back we ended up shouting at each other. I wouldn't usually react that way but she seemed to be trying to intimidate me and that enraged me. I mean normally if someone stepped on your shoe and didn't apologise you'd roll your eyes and move on? Not stop and start shouting at them to apologise? And then follow them down the platform carrying on an argument about it?? Especially when it was entirely caused by your own carelessness?

At the end she shouted that she didn't see me because she has epilepsy?!?! I'm not really sure if the connection if there is one. But again surely if you have a condition that causes you to not see people and therefore step right into their path then you have some awareness of it and when it happens you don't start shouting at them?

Flowerydems Mon 20-Feb-17 22:31:18

God she sounds like an arse, don't worry yourself about it. She's epileptic not blind, no reason to be a knob

Sweets101 Mon 20-Feb-17 22:33:25

Definitely her!

NoBiggie Mon 20-Feb-17 22:34:48

She was completely in the wrong!

Magzmarsh Mon 20-Feb-17 22:35:01

She's an aggressive arsehole who clearly thought she could intimidate you and got a shock when you didn't follow her script. Hopefully it'll make her think twice about being pointlessly nasty to someone else.

Chloe84 Mon 20-Feb-17 22:35:21

YANBU. A couple of days a woman meandering on the pavement instead of walking in a straight line had a go at me because I accidentally brushed against her when she came in my path. When I told her she should walk in a straight line, she told me fuck off. So I said the same.

Butterymuffin Mon 20-Feb-17 22:37:09

She was totally OTT and I can see why you shouted back, even if ideally you wouldn't have done. And the epilepsy thing is very strange.

TheWinterOfOurDiscountTents Mon 20-Feb-17 22:38:44

Well, from your perspective she cut across you. From her perspective perhaps you cut across her, and trod on her as well?

Neither of you comes out of well, so I'd drop it if I were you.

Northcountrygirl16 Mon 20-Feb-17 22:39:03

Thank you for telling me I wasn't being an arse! She walked off shouting that I knew nothing about epilepsy! People were looking at us, probably wondering what on earth was going on.

BrownEyedLady Mon 20-Feb-17 22:39:08

Nah! You did the right and normal thing. She picked the fight. Don't give it a second thought.

BrownEyedLady Mon 20-Feb-17 22:41:10

You proved you were not a doormat (or a pavement) was what I should have written! grin

Northcountrygirl16 Mon 20-Feb-17 22:42:46

No way she could think I cut across her. I was walking directly along the platform in a straight line from the entrance. She stepped out from the side directly into my path.

Quite possibly in her own world and oblivious to me, but no way could she have thought that I cut across her.

Chloe84 Mon 20-Feb-17 22:56:50

Some people always have to be first. Knobheads.

user1477282676 Mon 20-Feb-17 23:02:37

Episodes like this are INFURIATING OP. Yanbu of course. I was once pushing my DD in a pushchair, into a large, open store. I wasn't going fast or slow...just normal speed.

I pushed her across a WIDE open space with lots of room and a little boy of about 4 ran in front of me...with no warning. Naturally he was slightly bumped by the buggy...SLIGHTLY. He didn't even say ow...he looked at me and I said "Whoops!" in a smiling way and his crackers Mother came bareling accros the room and said "How dare you slam your pram into my son!"


I said "I certainly did not slam anything. He ran in front of me and he was lightly bumped"

She said "Oh so it's HIS fault now!" and I said "No, it's yours for not keeping better control of him"

Silly cow. I hate people like that. Her son wasn't hurt at all!

Purplepotatoe Mon 20-Feb-17 23:09:18

I'd have told her to fuck right off, goodness can you imagine if we all behaved like that on our commute every time we bumped into one another, which is all the time.

Guavaf1sh Mon 20-Feb-17 23:11:47

Not your fault at all; don't worry about it

RhodaBorrocks Mon 20-Feb-17 23:15:40

If she has epilepsy that prevents her from seeing things, one wonders what she was doing on a train platform. Surely that's just asking for trouble, lest she cut in front of an oncoming train?

Don't sweat it OP. Some people are just dicks.

TheWinterOfOurDiscountTents Mon 20-Feb-17 23:18:57

If she has epilepsy that prevents her from seeing things, one wonders what she was doing on a train platform

Are people with epilepsy not allowed on trains? Peripheral vision problems are a common side effect of anti-epilepsy drugs.

Northcountrygirl16 Mon 20-Feb-17 23:48:58

But surely if that's the case then you'd anticipate that you might well have caused an accident such as happened this morning,and not reacted aggressively?

Catherinebee85 Mon 20-Feb-17 23:50:13

f she has epilepsy that prevents her from seeing things, one wonders what she was doing on a train platform

Are people with epilepsy not allowed on trains? Peripheral vision problems are a common side effect of anti-epilepsy drugs.

With this being so....she should have some awareness of how her vision problems may cause her issues. YADNBU!!

LiviaDrusillaAugusta Mon 20-Feb-17 23:55:09

You were both at fault - shouting at each other in public negates any 'rightness'

ThatsPlenty Mon 20-Feb-17 23:56:56

Are people with epilepsy not allowed on trains? Peripheral vision problems are a common side effect of anti-epilepsy drugs.

So therefore it was her fault and she should have apologised surely?

ThatsPlenty Mon 20-Feb-17 23:57:42

Sorry, her as in the other lady, not the OP.

TheWinterOfOurDiscountTents Tue 21-Feb-17 00:14:54

I wasn't commenting on her fault, but the snarky suggestion by a pp that she shouldn't be on a train platform at all.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks Tue 21-Feb-17 00:22:57

I get problems with my peripheral vision. Problem is I don't know if I'm going to "go in to one" until I snap out of it.

From her point of view she could have "snapped back in" which would make her confused, jumpy and embarrassed, and possibly genuinely believed you were at fault.

But hey, being a bit miserable because of a disability is only acceptable if it's a visible one or MH hmm

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