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What on earth is this? (Found outside my house)

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brooklyn66 Fri 10-Feb-17 23:22:32

Yesterday came home to find a bit of folded-up paper wedged in a crack in the fence wall bit (pavement goes right past it). Opened it up to find 2x2p coins inside unrecognisable writing - see pic!
What is this?

eatpraylive Mon 13-Feb-17 19:03:51

I can recognise the script of all 4 South Indian languages, this is definitely not one of them 😊

Stanleysmum01 Mon 13-Feb-17 19:24:01

Brooklyn66 I think it is a comforting doodle as I suggested before. My sons autistic so I know all about rituals (not magical ones) and patterns from him, he's only 5 but likes the way some words 'look' in a visual sense especially cursive y's. He will often repeat ritualistic behaviour to help calm his brain when getting overloaded in a sensory world. Nothing bad not because he's stressed just a comfort thing, because what you found was on lined paper suggests they do it alot perhaps have reams of the stuff. Also perhaps the coins in it just meant they like the way the paper wraps round it. My son does all sorts of odd little things and will 'hide' random items. You may find odd things in that spot in the future or they may not use it again as you discovered it, bit like Sheldon's spot on the sofa in The Big Bang Theory! That's my take on it.

oldbirdy Mon 13-Feb-17 20:46:59

I said back on about page 2 that it's clearly a ritualistic piece of 'writing' and not any language, like the poster above I have worked with autistic people who found comfort when distressed in writing out the same symbol over and over, this to me looks like a more complex version of the same process. Very similar in most lines and identical endings. Someone with autism or another condition where repetition brings comfort is indulging in a comforting scripting ritual.

Portland573 Mon 13-Feb-17 21:23:50

Hard to tell with relatively low res picture, but might be Klingon. Yes, the fanboys do get that involved.

babybabybabyooo Mon 13-Feb-17 21:33:11

Hi. I thought it might have been oriental :/

Oatplum Mon 13-Feb-17 22:21:56

How creepy this is! Notice too how it's not even written on the line how we are taught at school but clearly in the middle of the lines. If you zoom in some words look similar to English but not clear and it looks like it's the same sentence written over and over again like lines you would write for being naughty at school if you look closely at the start and end of the sentences. Aliens? Supernatural? What is the history of your house or area?

BathshebaKnickerStickers Mon 13-Feb-17 22:54:49

It's NOT a geocache. Geocaches have logs for finders to sign - kind of the whole point. They are also in containers

Ticketybootoo Mon 13-Feb-17 23:02:50

It's a bit creepy - love to know what it means if anything . Good Luck and hope you don't get anymore

rainbowstardrops Tue 14-Feb-17 07:30:29

Ooh has this not been solved yet?! Most odd. placemarking

rogl Tue 14-Feb-17 09:04:47

Has anyone seen the film 'friend request'? It looks a lot like the creepy writing from that

Fernanie Tue 14-Feb-17 10:55:53

I can confidently say that's not any natural human language. Unfortunately can't tell you how I know that as it will out me! (And no, it's not because I wrote the thing 😂)

splendide Tue 14-Feb-17 11:00:42

How on earth would it "out" you?

Couldn't you just say you're a linguist or an expert in language or something? Or are you an alien?

picklemepopcorn Tue 14-Feb-17 11:00:46

Not natural human language... Unnatural human language? Alien language? Monster language?

ReapAndSow Tue 14-Feb-17 11:28:44

Some of these suggestions are ridiculous. 😂 Bad handwriting plus a foreign does not equate anything more exciting I'm afraid.


Redpony1 Tue 14-Feb-17 11:31:24

I'd tweet it if you haven't already!

ShutTheFuckUpBarbara Tue 14-Feb-17 11:34:34

Is it just me who is totally intrigued by NoToast 's find and how it could be linked?

Driger13 Tue 14-Feb-17 11:37:43

Looks EXACTLY like this made up language I did when I was younger. I say 'language' but it was literally just squiggles on a page in the form of words. Always wanted to write a sci-fi book and make an actual language using that but anyway, doesn't look like anything other than incomprehensible scribble. Perhaps it's just kids doing it to purposely cause confusion, fear and panic?

QuimReaper Tue 14-Feb-17 12:02:07

Fernanie confused I'm with splendide here - that is a naked attempt to sound intriguing and gnomic, there's surely no legitimate reason you "can't say more as it will out you".

TiggyD Tue 14-Feb-17 12:11:28

I can't tell you what it means for reasons I can't tell you about. I can't even post here so I won't. Don't even know who Tiggy is. If anyone asks, I was never here.

Cinnamon84 Tue 14-Feb-17 12:17:00

How bizarre! Please keep us posted

witwootoodleoo Tue 14-Feb-17 12:27:24

Maybe Fernanie works at GCHQ and has run it through their magic language machines hmm

Fernanie Tue 14-Feb-17 12:36:06

@TiggyD ROFL!

@splendide @QuimReaper - sorry, no, you're right. I could have just said I'm a linguist! I was overthinking it in that, as a linguist, I wouldn't assume that all linguists would know that. Say if they'd specialised in speech pathologies or something. There aren't many of us in my nerdy, niche field. Wasn't trying to be cryptic, was just making things needlessly complicated smile (Wouldn't have been much of an "out" anyway - I never post anything particularly scandalous on here!)

@picklemepopcorn - by "not natural human language" I mean I can't confidently say it's not klingon or elvish or some other made up language. Those are out of my remit I'm afraid!

Fernanie Tue 14-Feb-17 12:37:15

witwootoodleoo - ah, you got me ;)

user1483699375 Tue 14-Feb-17 12:40:25

Fernanie - please put me out of my misery - its some gaming thing isnt it ????? I've got to know!!!!

BiscuitMillionaire Tue 14-Feb-17 12:41:30

It's waaaaay back up the thread. But it made me laugh. Only on MN would you get a post that says. 'It's not Elvish or Middle English'. Absolutely brilliant range of academic/niche folk on here.

HopelesslydevotedtoGu Tue 14-Feb-17 19:34:02

Someone just posted in the Reddit forum

"Oh I know this is. It's traditional Mongolian. It's one of the way if writing it. In this type of writing there's no "tooth" (sounds like "a" or "e") letter. So yeah if you are writing it in this way you have ignore all the "tooth". (It's called "Татлаган бичлэг". But I can't translate in to English, sorry if this didn't made sense. Btw I'm Mongolian)"

Any MNers know traditional Mongolian?

murmuration Tue 14-Feb-17 19:47:52

Oh dear, hopelessly. That actually makes sense. I was struggling because I couldn't find the little sticky-outy bits to orient myself ("teeth" would be a good description). But if a Mongolian can't translate it, I doubt someone like me who studied it for barely a year could...

Although DH also studied Mongolian and is a linguist (and knows a bunch of linguists). I've sent the stuff to him - will report back if anything comes of it!

PossibiliTea Tue 14-Feb-17 21:22:02

I'm still checking on this daily haha!

Cakingbad Tue 14-Feb-17 21:47:30

There are Mongolian restaurants in Bristol. Would someone there be able to read it?

girlelephant Tue 14-Feb-17 22:05:35

So are we now thinking it's Mongolian and not someone with MH issues?

witwootoodleoo Tue 14-Feb-17 22:12:04

Could be Mongolian and also have MH issues of course.....

WhyPost Tue 14-Feb-17 22:13:38

Or a Mongolian with MH issues and bad hand writing. 🤔

wundringnow Tue 14-Feb-17 22:21:59

Oh, I have a Mongolian friend. I'll see if he can make anything of it.

ThaliaLuxurySpa Tue 14-Feb-17 22:57:48

Can I just say how seriously impressive the MN knowledge base continues to be? All so interesting. Your contributions of all stripes are making this one of my favourite threads.

(Though I'm quite partial to the leftfield theories, too, it has to be said) wink

neveradullmoment99 Tue 14-Feb-17 23:43:16

Nothing to add, but intriguing grin
Lets hope there is an answer. Could it be a child? I used to play at being a school teacher and wrote fake letters.

neveradullmoment99 Tue 14-Feb-17 23:43:52

It looks super neat though.

liz70 Wed 15-Feb-17 00:37:52

Tatlagan Bichleg. I like that; it's definitely got a ring to it. grin

wundringnow Wed 15-Feb-17 00:58:41

Hmm my Mongolian friend said "No, that's not Mongolian. To me it looks like somebody made it up".

FreeNiki Wed 15-Feb-17 02:54:02

Havent read the whole thread so dont know if its been suggested.

This is Georgian handwriting. Any correlation?

bluetea Wed 15-Feb-17 11:18:39

Place marking as I have also invested a lot of time reading this thread!! Love the idea of the local Mongolian restaurant checking it out! I too am impressed by the MN knowledge!

ThatsSoFetch Wed 15-Feb-17 12:39:37

Shamelessly placemarking!

brooklyn66 Wed 15-Feb-17 20:30:08

A poster has contacted me about a similar note she found some time ago, but hasn't been able to find hers yet... but guess what, it was on the street directly next to mine! So must have been going on for quite a while (assuming it is the same person!). Will update (or she can!) when I know more!
Still doesn't really explain what it is but it's so interesting. Haven't had a chance to ask any neighbours yet but will this weekend. There are quite a lot of renters that move in and out but some have been here ages.

I've checked and there's no CCTV pointing in our direction sad

QODRestYeMerryGentlemen Wed 15-Feb-17 20:58:03

Oh wow!!! Fabulous update op

SoMuchPain Wed 15-Feb-17 20:59:45

Place marking!! grin

firsttimemum15 Wed 15-Feb-17 21:03:55


KarmaNoMore Wed 15-Feb-17 21:16:24

Oh my, it just gets more and more puzzling.

HerRoyalFattyness Wed 15-Feb-17 21:19:46

Oh wow! Very intriguing update

missmoohoo Wed 15-Feb-17 21:37:59

Place marking 🙈

DramaQueenofHighCs Wed 15-Feb-17 22:13:05

Also place marking

PrincessFiorimonde Wed 15-Feb-17 22:28:12

How intriguing!

HughLauriesStubble Wed 15-Feb-17 22:33:55

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

cavatron Wed 15-Feb-17 22:35:36

Loving this thread!!

PovertyJetset Wed 15-Feb-17 22:38:31

I've been lurked by and so glad I did!

QuimReaper Wed 15-Feb-17 22:44:13

Goodness! You mean a MN poster or a Reddit one?

Any more news on the Mongolian lead?

KarmaNoMore Wed 15-Feb-17 22:54:58

Mongolian lead reported back, no match.

simi1428 Wed 15-Feb-17 23:00:43

Not any version of Tamil or Telugu

simi1428 Wed 15-Feb-17 23:01:34

Or Malayalam or Kannada

Beahun Thu 16-Feb-17 02:07:34

Katie Melua is Georgian. You should ask her. She seems like a nice girl,I'm sure she would help out. Extremely creepy that someone else had a similar note on your street. What did they make of it?

bloodymaria Thu 16-Feb-17 02:26:49

I'm so happy I found this thread again!

So it's looking like it's not a known language, I bet it's someone just fucking around.

ToDuk Thu 16-Feb-17 06:18:22

Send a pic to SOAS? I bet someone there would know.

MarilynWhirlwindRocks Thu 16-Feb-17 06:31:51


That's a great idea, actually...SOAS could discount swathes for you, OP.

Ooh, this mystery has so many possible scenarios!

Blueberryblueberry Thu 16-Feb-17 07:11:27

Shameless placemark grin although allowed because I read the whole thread

AristotlesTrousers Thu 16-Feb-17 08:08:33

Ooh, that's exciting OP! This fills me with hope that you might solve the mystery.

QuimReaper Thu 16-Feb-17 11:03:10

Send a pic to SOAS? I bet someone there would know.

Oh yes yes do that, I bet they won't rest until they've got to the bottom of it!

SeriousCreativeBlock Thu 16-Feb-17 12:08:46

Placemarking. This is fascinating!

menditdearhenry Thu 16-Feb-17 13:00:16

This is so intriguing! I hope you get to the bottom of it, OP.

ShutTheFuckUpBarbara Thu 16-Feb-17 13:10:22

If it is something that seems to be happening locally, is there a local forum or FB page where you could ask?

chitofftheshovel Thu 16-Feb-17 13:50:10

brooklyn - amazing to find a MN on your doorstep, hope the two of you can get your heads together on this one.

SnoozyCunt Thu 16-Feb-17 14:07:39


FromBigCityToTinyVillage Thu 16-Feb-17 16:00:50

Placemarking.. so hoping someone can solve the mystery !

WhereYouLeftIt Thu 16-Feb-17 16:43:00

OP, given that you and a nearby neighbour have had these - would it be worth taking these to the local newspaper? Not quite a DailyFail sadface story, but presumably someone local would recognise it?

GirlWithTheYellowHat Thu 16-Feb-17 16:55:01

This is sooo strange!

firsttimemum15 Fri 17-Feb-17 06:21:32

I thought Grorgian too i see documents frim all over with work. Or it coukd be made up.

Could you try acessing a translation service yiurself? Theres one at the town hall in the town i work in

Poppiesway1 Fri 17-Feb-17 21:52:39

I haven't read whole thread (14pages!)
Have you read it in a mirror ? There's a google translate app.. hold it over and see if it can read it..
or tweet it? See if anyone can read it that way?

Maryhadalittlelambstew Fri 17-Feb-17 23:50:47

Any further clues?!

Mistoffelees Sat 18-Feb-17 00:00:35

Shameless placemark!

CheckpointCharlie2 Sat 18-Feb-17 00:06:34

Wow, another letter nearby is amazing!

HoHumming Sat 18-Feb-17 00:13:22

Shamelessly marking.

Sl1nkyMalinki Sat 18-Feb-17 15:24:43

I love the SOAS idea, fingers crossed!

MyNameIsJane Sat 18-Feb-17 15:31:00

I am intrigued! (And shamelessly placemarking)

retainertrainer Sat 18-Feb-17 15:56:25

Place marked

SpartaCarcass Sat 18-Feb-17 16:50:01

I asked my Hungarian friend. He said "Not enough diacritical marks for Hungarian: There would seem to be mark over an S in the first picture, which might be a hachek, which would suggest a Slav language. "
Also suggested it might be mirror writing.

liz70 Sun 19-Feb-17 10:55:22

Well, if it's Cyrillic, then it's that badly written it's pretty much unintelligible. I'm not sure that it is, though.

PacificDogwod Sun 19-Feb-17 11:19:18

Could it by Thai??

It's not Cyrillic, I'm sure.

PacificDogwod Sun 19-Feb-17 11:19:31

be Thai hmm

mygorgeousmilo Sun 19-Feb-17 11:34:47

Definitely not Thai. I am fluent, Thai script doesn't go in that direction or hover between lines, and just looks very different. Still following to find out the answer, it's fascinating!

PacificDogwod Sun 19-Feb-17 11:40:42

Oh, ok, was just a thought.

I am totally riveted by this conundrum grin

PacificDogwod Sun 19-Feb-17 11:42:49

Am now looking at Sanskrit rather than hanging up the washing! grin

mygorgeousmilo Sun 19-Feb-17 12:11:51

Pacific me too! I can't wait to eventually see the answer. It's not Sanskrit either, or Pali. They have long bits going upwards and downwards, and little circles that sort of 'float'. This much I know, but otherwise still baffled confused

BringMeTheFreak Sun 19-Feb-17 17:36:28

I wondered if it was Dothraki but it isn't hmm

ReginaGeorgeinSheepsClothing Sun 19-Feb-17 17:40:30

Dalek?? grin -clutching at straws-

velveteenmummy Sun 19-Feb-17 21:03:44

It's a spell. the coins are added because of their property copper. I would get rid of them. Burn it if you have a log burner and say a cleansing spell to counteract it. It could be to keep the person who wrote it safe or to try to bother someone else either way you don't want to keep it. I will do a cleansing protective energy wash/prayer for you, don't freak you are absolutely safe.

HoHumming Sun 19-Feb-17 21:06:03

I'm fascinated by this thread. Am I totally naive to ask who writes/makes spells? I've only ever heard about them in children's stories that involve a witch e.g. Room on the broom.

PacificDogwod Sun 19-Feb-17 21:10:18

So, what does the spell say?
Wicca writing does not look like that according to Google Images (but what do I know).

user1477282676 Sun 19-Feb-17 21:13:07

Humming quite a lot of people. Some people who just seem to be ordinary and others who are obviously openly practicing witches. Also, some people from cultures other than ours. A lot of Eastern countries have a culture of "magic" and these sort of spells are often protection type spells or a desire for wealth.

If OP is well off it could be someone seeking wealth themselves. There are many spells involving placing things "on a rich man's land" or taking earth from them too.

velveteenmummy Sun 19-Feb-17 21:25:28

Could even be a love spell with the same words and names repeated over and over. Two copper coins representing 2 people. I can definitely see the repetition in the script. Or a boundary spell if another was found locally someone might be keeping an unwanted ex away. I had a polish friend and know these traditions are still very much alive in other cultures.

mincepiesareyum Sun 19-Feb-17 21:37:43

This is fascinating!

Mrsknackered Sun 19-Feb-17 21:48:31

Place marking. Please let us find out!

wafflyversatile Mon 20-Feb-17 01:36:35

Maybe email the British library?

AYankinSpanx Mon 20-Feb-17 01:47:46

I know I"ve said this upthread, but I think the 'copper' coins might be the key to understanding a lot. OP, did you clock how old the coins were?

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