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Big fat dirty liars

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jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 15:57:23

Please discuss, for and against, all are welcome, the (not to load the question but...) the bastard fuckwittery claim of:

"I wasn't lying, you just didn't ask"

OnceUponATimeInAVest Tue 31-Jan-17 16:00:06

Expected from an estate agent.

Pathetic from someone who's meant to care about you.

SparkleTwinkleGoldGlitter Tue 31-Jan-17 16:03:07

Depends who said it and what it is about

A partner that's been shagging someone that says it- Not Right

Buying a new car, well if you didn't ask the question about whatever the problem is technically it's not a lie

PebbleInTheMoonlight Tue 31-Jan-17 16:10:39

DH: Why did you lie about getting another handbag

Me: I didn't lie you didn't ask

Perfectly acceptable (also works in reverse for him buying copious amounts of Haribo)

DH: Why did you lie about sleeping with Tom Hardy?

Me: yeh right! I didn't lie, you didn't ask

Clearly unacceptable. Some omissions of truth aren't a big deal, others are life changing.

The devil is in the detail as they say.

OnceUponATimeInAVest Tue 31-Jan-17 16:12:05

Excellent point about the acceptability of handbags, Pebble.

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 16:24:44

I could give more detail but everyone would say


And, lmao, bless my heart, I would if I could.

HecateAntaia Tue 31-Jan-17 16:38:21

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys Tue 31-Jan-17 16:42:30

hecate your examples are brilliant.
Can you provide an "innocent" example?

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 16:45:32

Hecate you sound like a hot lawyer 🤓

MissVictoria Tue 31-Jan-17 16:46:21

Letting you believe something they know isn't true, is lying by omission.
So not telling you they cheated for example, is "lying" to you because they know you expect and trust them to be faithful. They know they haven't been faithful, you don't have to ask "have you ever cheated on me?" and them say "No" for it to be a lie.

DJBaggySmalls Tue 31-Jan-17 16:48:04

Hecate star

jcne Isn't lying by omission counted as lying in Knobsville?

TheSnowFairy Tue 31-Jan-17 16:49:55

op what was it you didn't ask?

So we can all learn precision question asking wink

Love the loudhailers btw!

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 16:53:13

I didnt ask whether my bf/father of my foetus (who is an alcoholic and had told me he has given up drinking) went out drinking with a girl he used to know when he finished work at 1am on a week night.

Silly me. Such a dumb dumb.

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 16:54:16

Miss and DJ yes lying by omission sums it up quite nicely doesn't it

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 16:55:12

FWIW I don't think he's cheating, but he is nonetheless a lying alcoholic and I'm stuck with him 🔫

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 16:55:42

Well maybe he's cheating. How the fuck would I know he's a liar!

TheSnowFairy Tue 31-Jan-17 17:03:54

To be fair, you don't know that.

These are what are now termed 'alternative facts'.

HecateAntaia Tue 31-Jan-17 17:06:15

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

jcne Tue 31-Jan-17 17:10:09

thesnow lollllll

HecateAntaia Tue 31-Jan-17 17:12:50

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Previously1 Tue 31-Jan-17 17:15:15

I almost missed reading this thread, thought it was about politicians.

Serialweightwatcher Tue 31-Jan-17 17:15:40

You'll have to ask him "have you lied about anything else" in which case he'll probably lie, but at least you asked ... and you're not stuck with him flowers

WhereYouLeftIt Tue 31-Jan-17 17:17:21

Isn't that just 'lying by omission'? As in - lying?

RebelRogue Tue 31-Jan-17 17:21:51

Hiding stuff because your partner would get mad,upset,angry etc is lying.
Not mentioning random,innocent stuff is not lying.

OP besides the time of day and his drinking partner,is he supposed to be off drink? Why do you feel you can't leave?
Let's face it if you asked him every night ..have you been drinking?with whom? Etc... he'd call you controlling and paranoid. You can't win..

AnyFucker Tue 31-Jan-17 17:23:41

Why do you think you are stuck with this shady, duplicitous alcoholic ?

Does he seem like a good role model for your dc ?

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