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Did Theresa May actually ask The Queen if Trump could have a State visit?

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DameVanillaSugar Tue 31-Jan-17 12:27:39

AIBU to think she didn't? She just got over excited and now that she's come home, the Palace are saying "Actually, love, it's The Queen's party and you've just brought a gatecrasher."

Yoksha Tue 31-Jan-17 12:50:19

Theresa May is far too calculated and careful to just blurt out an invitation for such an important occassion.

On a more comedic level I'd love to see the makers of the Windsors do a "special" where Alec Baldwin plays Trump & they create a mash up of a state visit. I imagine it being hilarious.

AuntieStella Tue 31-Jan-17 12:53:37

State visits are hosted by HMQ at the request of her Government and it's been like that for yonks.

Communications between the Palace and No10 are never made public.

DameVanillaSugar Tue 31-Jan-17 15:23:29

Yes auntie but did she ask Liz first or has she just told her to get on with it? If everything is hunky dory, why the fuss about Trump "embarassing the Queen"?

ShatnersWig Tue 31-Jan-17 15:29:26

Queenie has no say in who she meets or doesn't meet and does as she's told. That's the way our monarchy works. Most people think that's the right way and even that the Royals should be done away with.

Shame, because I think left to their own device, Queenie and Phil the Greek would probably tell Trump where to get off. Charles certainly would on environmental grounds.

autumnglow Tue 31-Jan-17 15:30:22

surely you cant be so naive to believe she'd get over excited ? shes not a kid shes the leader of the country! these sort of things are discussed by the establishment as well as the cabinet office and their advisors.

QueenoftheAndals Tue 31-Jan-17 15:30:50

I can't imagine William and Kate will be rushing to greet him either, not after his comments about those topless photos of her.

DameVanillaSugar Tue 31-Jan-17 17:48:52

Theresa was getting very excited on the podium next to WhoTrumped. Much more so than with the Merkel.

WallisofWindsor Tue 31-Jan-17 18:36:18

The Queen is certainly not amused by what's just happened.
Theresa is crazy.

maggiethemagpie Tue 31-Jan-17 18:41:42

I think it was a massive error of judgement on the part of Theresa.

She thought she had the trump thing in the bag, and he shafted her only hours after she left the little get together they had.

He'll shaft her again before too long, probably if and when she ever makes any sort of demand from him, he will think he's too powerful to do anything he doesn't want to do.

DameVanillaSugar Tue 31-Jan-17 20:43:38

F. M.L.

MycatsaPirate Tue 31-Jan-17 20:47:00

No.

Its' the equivalent of your kid telling 5 of their best friends they can come for a sleepover for half term without running it past you first.

DameVanillaSugar Tue 31-Jan-17 20:49:07

And they've already ordered the pizza on your credit card...

Andrewofgg Tue 31-Jan-17 21:11:27

No.

It's constitutional monarchy. The Queen had to meet Mugabe and give Ceausescu a gong because the Government of the day said so.

UterusUterusGhali Tue 31-Jan-17 21:14:57

I think she was doing that British thing of "oh you must pop over some time" and Trump, with his blunt American ways, took it at face value.

He'll probably pop over unexpectedly without bringing a bottle of wine and the whole of the UK will have to pretend they were just on their way out.

LittleLionMansMummy Tue 31-Jan-17 21:19:05

I too have wondered this. I think Queenie would have had to agree to it first and can't imagine Theresa is the sort of inexperienced politician to drop a clanger. She's a very careful woman.

BigGreenOlives Tue 31-Jan-17 21:19:20

This is putting pieces of the puzzle together & I might not be getting it right but there is a committee with representatives from the govt, Buckingham Palace & civil servants etc which decides on State Visits. He won't be able to come for ages on a State visit, the Queen's diary is fixed every 6 months or so from what I understand, the next time she's likely to have a gap is in the autumn after she comes back from Balmoral in mid-October.

LordRothermereBlackshirtCunt Tue 31-Jan-17 21:23:04

I can't imagine Theresa is the sort of inexperienced politician to drop a clanger. She's a very careful woman.
A more careful politician would have at least waited a few weeks into the Presidency to see what exactly he was going do before rushing over there to lick his arse. It's not like there weren't warning signs.

Northernlurker Tue 31-Jan-17 21:24:26

Private eye said they'd pencilled him in for October 2018. I suspect the PM has gone it alone with this one and bought it forward.

The queen will play ball albeit frostily and keep her gloves on. She will however unleash her secret weapon. The Duke of Edinburgh has been honing his diplomatic gaffs for the last 60 years. Now is the time, now is his moment. He can be as offensive as he likes to Trump and the nation will throw him a parade. Kate will probably get diplomatically pregnant so she can avoid him and Charles and Cams can both have a bad back. Leaving Princess Anne to deal with Trump's wandering hands as only a woman who has spent her life in the horsey set can...........

BigGreenOlives Tue 31-Jan-17 21:25:46

Sits back feeling smug that Private Eye uses same method of working things out as me. wine

LittleLionMansMummy Tue 31-Jan-17 21:26:04

That's true Lord and believe me I'm no fan. My reading is based purely on my professional experience of her until now. However desperate times call for desperate measures....

PigletWasPoohsFriend Tue 31-Jan-17 21:26:15

It's constitutional monarchy. The Queen had to meet Mugabe and give Ceausescu a gong because the Government of the day said so.

Plus Idi Armin and many others.

Northernlurker Tue 31-Jan-17 21:28:08

We still owe Spain a state visit. They cancelled last years because of a constitutional crisis. Pathetic excuse.

MumW Tue 31-Jan-17 21:29:06

When I said I wasn't sure he should get a state visit so soon, it was suggested that maybe the Queen asked to get it out of the way quickly before he does anything even more controversial and makes a state visit even more awkward than it already will be.

NapQueen Tue 31-Jan-17 21:29:16

I can't wait to see this current debacle on the Crown in 10 seasons time or so!

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