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AIBU about making up formula at night?

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Chocolateorangegoblin Mon 30-Jan-17 20:58:55

A friend of mine told me she boils the kettle, waits 30 minutes for it to cool etc before making a bottle all while her Dd is screaming to be fed during the night.
AIBU to think that's madness?! Surely most people don't do that?!
Obviously a lot of people have perfect prep machines now but that still involves getting out of bed etc.
I make up bottles in advance, cool them and keep them in the fridge and then at bedtime I take one to bed in a cool bag and DS drinks it whenever he wakes up. I am obviously a lazy sod but there's no way I would be standing about waiting for water to cool down at 2am!

StarlingMurderation Mon 30-Jan-17 21:01:12

That's the advice these days, but we made up 12 hours' worth every morning and night, flash cooled them, kept them in the back of the fridge then heated them up as and when required. DS didn't get a single tummy bug. Of course, that could just be our very good luck! I was extremely careful to sterilise everything too.

StandardNameHere Mon 30-Jan-17 21:01:49

I always used the instant formula, big bottles for the day which were kept in the fridge once opened and warmed up then I'd take little bottles to bed with me.
7oz per bottle, no need to heat = no need to get up

GloriousSlug Mon 30-Jan-17 21:01:53

When my eldest was a baby 12 years ago, advice was tomato bottles up 24 hours in advance so in the middle of the night I would do pretty much what you have described.

I'm sure you'll get a load of posters coming on to tell you powder needs to be added to boiling water to kill bacteria but hey hi, the advice changes that often you can never really get it right!!

trappedinsuburbia Mon 30-Jan-17 21:01:54

No chance I would be waiting 30 mins with a screaming baby.
I think guidelines changed but I always made 4 in advance, cooled them and plonked in fridge. Everyone survived !

HungryHorace Mon 30-Jan-17 21:01:58

Not every baby will drink cold formula. You're lucky your DS does.

I got a tip from here: chilled, boiled, water in fridge. Flask of boiling water on side. Pour 50% hot water. Add powder. Top up with chilled. Perfect temp.

Yep, you have to get up, but it's not like I wouldn't wake during a feed anyway.

Horses for courses. Up to your friend what she does.

Mungobungo Mon 30-Jan-17 21:02:05

And when your baby is admitted to hospital with gastroenteritis will you be able to live with yourself? Because that's the risk and the reason why the advice is to make it up as you go along.

Also, perfect prep machines have not been proven to be safe or effective enough in ensuring that the powder is completely sterilised.

StarlingMurderation Mon 30-Jan-17 21:02:26

I found it hideously stressful waiting for the bottle warmer to heat the formula up while DS yelled, can't imagine waiting half an hour. Not sure it'd be good for the baby either.

GloriousSlug Mon 30-Jan-17 21:02:35

To make, not tomato!

spacefrog35 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:04:15

If you read the world health organisation advice that all this comes from it says that if you can't make up at the time then it's ok to make in advance and store at the back of the fridge so no, you are not being unreasonable.

Costalot1 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:05:04

Used to do the same then warm it in the microwave

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam Mon 30-Jan-17 21:05:45

I made all my children's bottles up in advance and shock horror not one ever got gastroenteritis. They changed the advice because some stupid people were using them after the 24 hour window. The official advice has to be in line with the stupidest common denominator. More chance of getting gastro by not using boiling water to make the milk in the first place.

Heatherbell1978 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:05:46

I used to make up bottles with boiling water then pop in fridge. When I needed one I'd put in microwave for 30 secs. Obviously shake well and taste first. Worked for me and I'll be doing the same again with next one due soon.

picklemepopcorn Mon 30-Jan-17 21:07:04

We made up sterilised bottles with boiled water. In the night added the premeasured powder, good shake, serve.

The boiled water in the sterile bottles stays sterile through the night. It's fed straight away once mixed with milk powder.

Chocolateorangegoblin Mon 30-Jan-17 21:07:28

Why would my baby get gastroenteritis. I make formula up using hot water and store it in a cooled environment until he is ready to drink it. It's not like I leave it sitting on the side all night. The cool bag keeps it cool for up to 8 hours.

Both my kids have drank milk at cool/room temp. I've never heated it up for them so they don't know any different!
Prescription formula so no ready made stuff sadly or I would probably use that at night.

spacefrog35 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:07:37

Page 6 for anyone that's interested in the WHO advice www.who.int/foodsafety/publications/micro/PIF_Bottle_en.pdf

Yell0915 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:07:38

I used to do as horrace
If there's only a small amount of water in kettle it takes less than a minute to boil and bottle is done in under 2 mins.
My dc does still wake up for one bottle in the night but I use disposables now,
Yes I know they work out costly but I'm happy to pay the money knowing the whole house isn't being disturbed and I can give her a bottle asap and get back to sleep quickly

In answer to your question you are not BU to think her life could be a lot easier but what works for one doesn't always suit another

user892 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:07:53

Very much this >

And when your baby is admitted to hospital with gastroenteritis will you be able to live with yourself? Because that's the risk and the reason why the advice is to make it up as you go along

But it's your choice to play bacteria roulette.

user892 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:09:30

YABVU for judging a mother who has made an informed choice to follow health advice based on scientific evidence. Very unreasonable indeed.

MTB1003 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:09:33

We made up sterilised bottles with boiled water. In the night added the premeasured powder, good shake, serve.

This is what we do as well. It takes about 10sec to make up a fresh bottle. Not hard at all.

Carrados Mon 30-Jan-17 21:12:19

Powder in bottle then add about 50ml boiling water and then make the rest up with cold water from the tap. Stopped sterilising after a couple of months. This is the advice in Netherlands (Anglo Dutch family) and France. No bugs.

Seen plenty of women get stupid hysterical about it in forums. As long as the bottles have been washed properly and made up milk not left too long, it's fine.

We used the small instant formula bottles at night. Just poured them in the unsterilised bottle on bedside table and lent over with bottle. Done:

ispymincepie Mon 30-Jan-17 21:13:02

It's one risk to make up in advance. Another to leave out of the fridge for 2+ hours before using. I suppose I may occasionally do one but certainly not both. I use the perfect prep and while I know it's not proven totally safe I feel the damage by leaving my baby to scream for half an hour is worse than the risk of improperly made formula. I breastfed my first 3, so much easier but my 4th was unable to for various reasons. Nighttime milk is basically the only reason I still pump at nearly 9 months because I can leave a bottle of breastmilk out all night!

user892 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:13:10

Why would my baby get gastroenteritis. I make formula up using hot water and store it in a cooled environment until he is ready to drink it

Because bacteria multiply even when feeds are made up and kept refrigerated.

The NHS and WHO Babyfriendly advice isn't just pulled out of someone's arse, you know hmm

Carrados Mon 30-Jan-17 21:13:18

Also seen women go into meltdowns over their partners not using cooled boiled water in the bottle. Crazy.

Yell0915 Mon 30-Jan-17 21:13:34

I think the thing with the boiled water is that it's meant to be boiling hot when you add the powder to sterlise the powder
Nothing wrong with making the whole bottle and then cooling it and warming up/giving it cool later

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