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This is bullshit :- brexit

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EveOnline2016 Tue 24-Jan-17 10:04:00

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-supreme-court-ruling-judges-defy-theresa-may-and-hand-power-to-parliament-a7542406.html

I can see the MP voting to stay in.

EveOnline2016 Tue 24-Jan-17 10:04:13

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-supreme-court-ruling-judges-defy-theresa-may-and-hand-power-to-parliament-a7542406.html

MaudGonneMad Tue 24-Jan-17 10:04:49

Why is it bullshit?

JennyOnAPlate Tue 24-Jan-17 10:05:54

Not bullshit at all. It's cheered me up no end this morning.

EveOnline2016 Tue 24-Jan-17 10:06:20

Because the people have voted and the people wants to leave the EU.

I can see parliament voting against Brexit, so there would have been no point in a vote in the first place.

KidLorneRoll Tue 24-Jan-17 10:06:27

Ensuring our democratically elected MP's have a vote on Brexit is bullshit?

Nope, it's not. Sorry. There is no way it won't go through, but that is beside the point.

SooWrites Tue 24-Jan-17 10:06:38

I can see the MP voting to stay in.

One can hope.

I don't believe they will. There'd be too much backlash from the Turkeys Brexiters.

We are, unfortunately, going to have to live with this mess sad

TabithaBethia Tue 24-Jan-17 10:06:43

I hope they do vote to stay in (unlikely).

Iamtheresurrection Tue 24-Jan-17 10:07:25

I think this is the start of the downfall of democracy. (and I voted Remain)

MaudGonneMad Tue 24-Jan-17 10:07:58

Parliament is sovereign in the UK system. This decision upholds that, thankfully.

TheyCallMeBell Tue 24-Jan-17 10:08:33

It's democracy in action. You can't demand the 'will of the people' is acted upon without due democratic process.

Sovereignty of the UK parliament is what Brexit was all about, was it not? This is exactly what was voted for.

OhYouBadBadKitten Tue 24-Jan-17 10:08:37

It's not bullshit, its not a decision that has been created to thwart article 50, merely to ensure that it enacted legally. That is the sole remit of the supreme court.

MadHattersWineParty Tue 24-Jan-17 10:09:04

Well, I didn't vote to lose my rights as a European citizen actually. Why should the turkeys Leavers dictate that I should?

Unfortunately I think we will leave though sad

HecateAntaia Tue 24-Jan-17 10:09:17

What the court is saying is that the government must follow the law.
What's wrong with that?
There must be an act of parliament.
Because that's the law.
The fault here is the government for not following the law on this matter. Not the court for saying hang on, the uk law on this is clear

Tbh this is not going to change anything (sadly. Imo. I voted remain! )
All that will happen is a bill, an act of parliament rushed through and article 50 triggered because MPs are not going to go against their constituency because they'll be scared of not getting reelected.

I don't think any of us should be complaining that there is a strong system in place to ensure the government follows proper procedure!

KidLorneRoll Tue 24-Jan-17 10:09:21

"I think this is the start of the downfall of democracy. (and I voted Remain)"

It's the exact opposite of that.

MadHattersWineParty Tue 24-Jan-17 10:10:06

No, it's not the 'downfall of democracy'. It is democracy.

EveOnline2016 Tue 24-Jan-17 10:10:10

Also AM don't get a vote, so it's only going to be those in England.

The majority of the remaining group was English and PM are not going to go against what their constituents wants.

travailtotravel Tue 24-Jan-17 10:10:28

We are a parliamentary democracy, of course they should have a bloody vote. Or we get rid of the lot of them and we just have a referendum for all decisions or a benign dictatorship instead.

We elect our MPs to make decisions on our behalf. Some of them are good at it, some really crap at it. But they listen to their constituents.

edwinbear Tue 24-Jan-17 10:10:43

It's been well reported that MP's will suppport Brexit in the vote otherwise they will be accused of refusing to accept what the electorate voted for. All this serves to do is delay the inevitable, increase uncertainty and make it harder for businesses to forward plan.

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Tue 24-Jan-17 10:11:24

OO, what exactly will be achieved by remoaners if they get their way?

Meanwhile the EU has issued a directive on how brown a roast potato is allowed to be.

MaudGonneMad Tue 24-Jan-17 10:11:26

Er, Scotland Wales and NI send MPs to Westminster.

You don't have a clue what you're ranting about, do you? grin

LucyCallaghan Tue 24-Jan-17 10:11:47

You clearly have no understanding of the process. Go and do some reading.

steppinstone Tue 24-Jan-17 10:11:48

This is just telling us the process we need to lawfully Brexit. No more.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a bit confused.

OhYouBadBadKitten Tue 24-Jan-17 10:12:02

It upholds democracy. It ensures that the terms under which we leave are not dictated by a single person (or a group holding secret discussions). May was trying to take power that was not hers to have.

booox Tue 24-Jan-17 10:12:22

It wasn't a vote.

It was a referendum <sigh>.

And they'd actually established that they'd have to get parliament to vote on it before the referendum had even begun.

Not sure why it's taken this long actually.

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