My first AIBU! The word 'gotten'

[MollyHuaCha]

Why is this creeping over the pond into our language? AIBU to be bothered about this?

[Eolian]

YANBU. It has GOT on my nerves often recently.

[Riversiderunner]

YANBU. Can't bear it, esp when people say it KNOWING what they're doing and trying to be cool.

Tragic.

[CaraAspen]

It is an older, correct form of English as retained by our American cousins. Arguably it is more correct. However, it has connotations of slang here these days so it is probably best to avoid it in most situations.

[BarbaraofSeville]

YANBU. I find American English extremely irritating. I don't know if that in itself is unreasonable.

Can I get?
Working two jobs

And I don't know if it's an Americanism, or just a new thing, but when people write or say 'we've already done Scandinavia' No you haven't, you've been there, not 'done' it

[WorraLiberty]

YANBU but whenever someone starts a thread on this subject, someone always comes along to point out that back in the day, it was normal English.

But that totally ignores the fact that most people are only saying it now, due to American influence.

It's the same as, "Can I get a cup of coffee" or "Can I get a portion of chips".

It makes my ears bleed

[MilkTwoSugarsThanks]

YABU. It's English. We retain it in the form of "forgotten/forgot". "Gotten" fell out of common usage at some point, but for no real reason. Language fluctuates all the time, get over it.

Look up the word "nice". It's meaning has changed a good few times.

[WorraLiberty]

Oh, X posted

[CaraAspen]

"MilkTwoSugarsThanks

YABU. It's English. We retain it in the form of "forgotten/forgot". "Gotten" fell out of common usage at some point, but for no real reason. Language fluctuates all the time, get over it.

Look up the word "nice". It's meaning has changed a good few times."

[WorraLiberty]

Language fluctuates all the time, get over it.

Look up the word "nice". It's meaning has changed a good few times.

Or the word 'ironic' maybe?

[PasDevantLesElephants]

I'm SO glad you started this thread, I was worried I was the only one who had noticed!

It's truly awful, makes me wince/hoick up my judgy pants every time I see/read it.

[CaraAspen]

Language evolves. That is what makes it fascinating.

[VeryBitchyRestingFace]

Zzzzzz. This again.

Commonly used word where I'm from (Scotland). Definitely not American.

[WorraLiberty]

Something else that makes me irrationally annoyed lately, is the amount of people who are starting sentences with the word 'So'.

Once you start noticing it, it's hard to stop. It's particularly annoying on the news whenever they interview someone.

"Billy Jones witnessed the fire. Can you tell us what you saw, Billy?" - So I was standing outside the building and blah blah...."

Or, "Can you tell us a bit more about the charity?" - So we're working with young people in the community...blah blah"

It just seems to have sprung up all of a sudden Mumsnetters are even starting threads with the word 'So'.

[Imamouseduh]

It is a word though: 'Ill gotten gains'.

[WonderMike]

I had a history teacher that would refuse to listen to any answer, or mark any work that used the word "got" He'd get quite mad with rage. That was 30-odd years ago, if he hasn't already died he's in Starbucks slapping a wooden ruler on the counter yelling "REDUNDANT"

[MilkTwoSugarsThanks]

Look up the word "nice". It's meaning has changed a good few times.

Or the word 'ironic' maybe?

Tbh I don't know which meaning of it is in current usage so I have no idea whether it falls in to "ironic" or not

[Suppermummy02]

Gotten was an English word long b4 we colonized America. Words come in an out of fashion, tis unreasonable for one generation too try an own a language then claim their way is the only correct way two speak.

The past tense form of get is got; the past participle of got is gotten. >:D

[everythingis]

Can I get is just rude. It's may I have.

[GinIsIn]

YABU - it's English. As in 'begotten'.

[LaurieMarlow]

Gotten is actually more correct if you're going to get all purist on our asses.

But language is not fixed, it evolves.

[MilkTwoSugarsThanks]

everythingis - "Can I get through this?"

[PasDevantLesElephants]

My DD has started doing the 'So....' thing, I think she gets it from her bloody teacher!

[everythingis]

I mean in the context of riding items in a cafe. I always feel Sorry for the staff!

[Eolian]

It's not standard, current UK English usage, so I don't see how it can be 'more correct' if you are a UK English-speaker (apart from in Scotland, I think).