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To NOT say Miss-CHEE-vee-ous?

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MerryMarigold Fri 13-Jan-17 18:18:26

So ds1 AND ds2 both claim 'Mischievous' is pronounced thus. I do not say it like this and it is causing problems for ds1 who struggles in spelling at the best of times (it's on the Y6 spelling list <sigh>). He keeps spelling it 'Mischievious'. I have told him if he said it properly he would probably spell it right, but he (and ds2) said 'all the teachers' say it this way, so now I am doubting the way I was brought up by my well-spoken (but occasionally mistaken) Mother.

She says, and I learnt, 'MISS-cha-fus' (stress on first vowel and ending like 'superfluous'). Is that wrong?

I think I could just about handle 'Miss-CHEE-vous', but not with the extra 'ee' in it.

So, what do you say? And are you right? grin

absolutelynotfabulous Fri 13-Jan-17 18:22:25

Yanbu. It's mischievous. Pronounced MISS-chee-vus.

Beardsareweird Fri 13-Jan-17 18:23:59

You are correct.

Mileymoocow Fri 13-Jan-17 18:25:21

I say miss chee vee ous too grin I'm north east and I get the piss ripped out of me by my southern friends. Could it possibly be regional?

ThroughThickAndThin01 Fri 13-Jan-17 18:25:28

Interesting! It appears I say it with ease both ways.

SparklyLeprechaun Fri 13-Jan-17 18:25:46

You are right.

Tearingoutmyhair Fri 13-Jan-17 18:26:22

YANBU. It's "MISS-chi-v'ss"

Anything else is incorrect, not regional variation.

Grilledaubergines Fri 13-Jan-17 18:26:57

You are right but I hear it pronounced both ways so I don't think it's a regional thing, more an individual preference!

MerryMarigold Fri 13-Jan-17 18:27:20

One Y6 teacher is Canadian, the other is an Aussie. Ds2's teacher is Essex. grin

bigtapdancingpimp Fri 13-Jan-17 18:28:04

You are correct.

However my kitten is definitely 'Mr-CHEE-vee-ous wink

ailPartout Fri 13-Jan-17 18:34:16

You're correct OP.

www.englishclub.com/pronunciation/word-stress-rules.htm

Something (us) linguists know that the majority of the population haven't realised is that it is unimportant. If you wouldn't confuse the the two pronunciations then it will have no effect on anything, ever.

According to my bible the OED, mischievious was a common variant until the 1500s and the stress on the second sylable until the C18.

Your child is pronouncing the word accoring to common English standards. Give them a break.

SomewhatIdiosyncratic Fri 13-Jan-17 18:49:41

I've always said mis chiv ous, so similar to several replies so far. I was challenged on it recently, but I don't have a local accent so wondered if that was the cause. It sounds clumsy saying it as mis cheev I ous.

I always got berated at school for chick en not chick in. Different area, still not local. I'm used to being different- the price of changing area very young!

absolutelynotfabulous Fri 13-Jan-17 18:54:42

I'm confused. How can miss-CHEE-vee-us be a "version" of mischievous? They're spelled differently. Fine if it were spelled mischievious, but it isn't.

Scribblegirl Fri 13-Jan-17 18:57:26

I agree with you OP.

I also think 'controversy' is 'controv-er-see' not 'cont-reverse-ee'.

Controversia lwink

MerryMarigold Fri 13-Jan-17 18:58:27

Your child is pronouncing the word accoring to common English standards. Give them a break.

I'll give them a break when they can spell it correctly! It just doesn't help.

However, it is something of a comfort that they are speaking Ye Olde English.

Babbitywabbit Fri 13-Jan-17 19:00:39

You are correct OP.

MerryMarigold Fri 13-Jan-17 19:00:42

Scribble, my Mum also says 'con-TROV-ersee'.

TrustySnail Fri 13-Jan-17 19:02:32

YANBU. 'MisCHEEveeous' irritates me whenever I hear it.

strawberrypenguin Fri 13-Jan-17 19:03:35

I vary between both versions!

Grilledaubergines Fri 13-Jan-17 19:04:09

Scribble, my Mum also says 'con-TROV-ersee

That's how I say it. Not sure there is another way, is there?

pointythings Fri 13-Jan-17 19:12:20

Misscheeveeous is as bad as 'Pacific' (instead of specific).

Scribblegirl Fri 13-Jan-17 19:14:06

grilled DFiance says 'cont-reverse-ee' (middle pronounced exactly like going backwards in a car). This thread has caused a pub argument between us, so well done OP!

My children are doomed grin

Grilledaubergines Fri 13-Jan-17 19:20:20

Scribble where does your DH hail from? As I read his way out loud, I've become. geordie!

CaoNiMa Fri 13-Jan-17 19:22:57

This is by the by, but I once knew a woman who pronounced "aromatherapy" as "ARROW-muh-THER-upee".

notsurehowtodothis Fri 13-Jan-17 19:36:02

Sorry, I say it your DCs way..... as do most people apparently: blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2014/01/mischievous-mischievious/

Tp quote Grammarist: 'The OED lists instances of mischievious going back to the 17th century, and a Google Books search reveals a few thousand instances from before 1920. So while mischievous is certainly the standard spelling and is safer in formal writing and school papers, using mischievious is not a grievous error in informal contexts.'

I'd lay off them.

FWIW the one I cannot stand is 'Issue' when pronounced 'Isss-you'. It's 'Ish-oo'. Like 'Tissue'. Stop it.

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