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To be pissed off at the British school system and consider leaving the UK just because of that!

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stateofworkandplay Wed 11-Jan-17 15:24:47

I have nc as outing and I don't want my other posts linked.

DC has sen which affect their learning, all through primary I have fought tooth and nail to get her a diagnoses and then help. Just to be clear in year 5 she had a level of 1c which is pretty bad when they are expected to get a level 4 in year 6. She spent primary school saying she was thick and stupid and rubbish and crying every damn day she had to go through the gates.

Fast forward to secondary school and with help she is doing great, she finally loves school. Only the government has changed the goal posts with GCSE scores.

So this kid who was at a 1c is now working at a low gcse grade c sort of target in most subjects and even a high B grade in some others. I would have been bloody ecstatic if you had told me in year 5 she would be working at a grade C level for her gcses, flaming thrilled.

But no a low C is no longer a 'good pass' anymore, you have to get a high C under the new rules so instead of getting 5 gcse Cs , 2 Bs and 1 D like she would have done she is only going to get 2 good passes instead and her report is all reds because of the low Cs which has further reinforced the fact she is thick and stupid and can't do it in her head and I hate them for it.

redexpat Wed 11-Jan-17 15:52:41


redexpat Wed 11-Jan-17 15:55:42

But where else could you go where the language wont be a barrier? USA? Australia? I dont know what the provision for sen is like.

sonlypuppyfat Wed 11-Jan-17 15:56:32

Is it just me but whenever I go to parents evening I am just completely lost when they talk about grades, they just don't make sense

Whyiseverynameinuse Wed 11-Jan-17 15:59:45

What are the sen op? There are options for intervention that might be more effective than you've had to date.

riceuten Wed 11-Jan-17 16:00:59

YANBU to be hacked off. but relocate to where that is better, that perhaps doesn't involve you (and your nearest and dearests) learning a whole new language.

LIZS Wed 11-Jan-17 16:01:38

I think your issue should be aimed at the school's method of reporting than the system itself. When does your dd sit her exams , will she still be graded a- e or 1-9? If the former, noone differentiates c grades. If the latter grade boundaries aren't yet clearly defined. Other national systems can be less forgiving btw, and from a younger age.

PhilODox Wed 11-Jan-17 16:02:32

That's the English system, not Scottish!
Her progress from Y5 is fantastic! Performance tables now include progress measures- her progress8 score will surely be fantastic if she's on track for C grade equivalent.
Don't let her be disheartened- celebrate the progress she's made.

Servicesupportforall Wed 11-Jan-17 16:03:23

sonoy me too and it's our last child's last parents evening next week grin

Op I do sympathise but do you have evidence that other countries are significantly better?

SuperPug Wed 11-Jan-17 16:04:52

YANBU - I'm now teaching this and it's a terrible grading system.

abbsisspartacus Wed 11-Jan-17 16:07:46

Australia is a year behind with our schools so move there repeat a year and pray she gets what she needs? Or stress to the school that red is fucking unhelpful and to get there shit together

catslife Wed 11-Jan-17 16:11:49

OP your dd has made great progress and has done really well so far.
Which year group is she in - if it's Y10 then the actual targets aren't particularly accurate especially given that the marks needed for the new grades aren't known yet.
BUT this new system doesn't apply across the whole of the UK. As PhilODox says Scotland have a completely different system and there are also differences in Wales where they are keeping the old A*-C grades. So you may not need to move as far as you think.

Gooseberryfools Wed 11-Jan-17 16:13:27

I have children at primary and secondary. I used to be a teacher. Yes now a high C is a pass and she won't be getting many but that doesn't mean she's thick or stupid. There are lots of different types of intelligence. The school system just tests a limited range of intelligence types. She will be strong in other areas where other children are weaker.

AgentProvocateur Wed 11-Jan-17 16:14:36

"British" school system? Do you mean "English"?

Gooseberryfools Wed 11-Jan-17 16:15:07

Here. Read this.

Oblomov16 Wed 11-Jan-17 16:26:50

I appreciate that you are hacked off, but I think there is a lot you can do about it.

Why don't you copy and paste your posts here into an email to senco and HOY, ask for a meeting.
Then at least you've got a paper trail.

stateofworkandplay Wed 11-Jan-17 16:29:50

Oh I know Gooseberry , that's her opinion of herself sad not my opinion of her. So Wales is doing the old version?

Gooseberryfools Wed 11-Jan-17 16:30:25

It sounds to me like everyone needs to value her strengths and her hard work/effort more.

stateofworkandplay Wed 11-Jan-17 16:30:56

Year ten sorry yes.

stateofworkandplay Wed 11-Jan-17 16:34:15

I agree Gooseberry. It feels like she's worked her damn hardest to fit in the box they want and then they've changed the shape of the box if that makes sense. I have spent years telling her she is great but I'm Mum what do I know.

angeldelightedme Wed 11-Jan-17 16:35:23

To be blunt, your DC is what she is.Expecting more of students is not a failing of the system hmm

Gooseberryfools Wed 11-Jan-17 16:35:43

Maybe you should speak with her form teacher and pastoral care about this. Because she shouldn't be feeling crap about her grades. She's making 100% effort and that is more ten enough

allowlsthinkalot Wed 11-Jan-17 16:42:10

Wales is still shit I'm afraid. Don't move here for education!

CathodeRayTube Wed 11-Jan-17 16:45:40

Scotland and Ireland both have good education systems and speak English. Either would be a much better option IMHO.

BarbarianMum Wed 11-Jan-17 16:49:05

So you're maybe thinking of somewhere where the education system doesn't value academic attainment? Or where not only academic attainment is valued? Because the latter can be found right here, in a good school and certainly in the wider community. Speak to her about her strengths and ask her school to do likewise.

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