Is it normal to be err... marginally (very?) dependant on chocolate and coffee to get through the day?

[firstimer30s]

My lovely vegan DSis gave me a lecture about cows milk (bad for the planet, health and general existence apparently) and then raised eyebrows when I had a second coffee (had 1st at 11am and 2nd at 1pm) and muttered 'addiction' at me.
She is in her 20s with limited responsibilities while I am in my 30s, work and have a DC.
At the mo I feel like coffee and chocolate keep me going . AIBU to think this is normal at this stage of life?
How much coffee and chocolate do you consume daily and do you have DCs?

[ChapstickLegends]

Pfff unless she thinks she needs to stage an intervention, she is just being rude.

I drink lots of coffee, because I enjoy it. I could stand to cut down though. But I don't think two cups of a morning is excessive.

[ChapstickLegends]

(I have DCs. But I drank too much coffee long before that! Cut back to 1 cup/day during pregnancies but am now way back up there.)

[wizzywig]

3 coffees with double espressos in them daily. without fail. then herbal teas continuously. im in my 40s with 3 kids and 3 jobs. i think you need to abandon this sister of yours. i would. no one benefits if i dont get my coffee in the exact style that i drink it. im serious too.

[wasonthelist]

Drink far too much coffee, Have for years, don't drink milk but not because of lectures from sanctimonious vegans.

[SpuriouserAndSpuriouser]

I am definitely slightly dependant on coffee to get through the day, and I would not appreciate people tutting and muttering at me for choosing to have an extra coffee. I mean, how annoying! Out of all the things to be addicted too, coffee and chocolate in (not-ridiculous quantities) isn't that bad.

[Bobochic]

I don't really ever eat chocolate but find it very hard indeed to live without coffee.

[ciderwithrose]

If you eat healthily and the caffeine and chocolate are part of, rather than solely, your daily diet, i dont see any problem. (I eat at least one bar of choc a night, its my treat to myself, and caffeine makes me a bit more alert at work. So both work for me, I guess i am biased)

[hollinhurst84]

Coffee I probably have one a day or so
Tea on the other hand maybe 4-8 cups?
Chocolate not every day but when I feel like it

[PodgeBod]

I'm usually on my 2nd or third coffee by 11am, but I don't have milk so that's obviously ok far too much chocolate as well. I have 2 children under 2.

[GreenTureen]

I was up to about 4 large cups of coffee a day...and LARGE cups, the super-big mugs. I have 2 dc atm.

I'm now 21 weeks pregnant with dc3 so cut down to one 'normal' sized coffee each morning, and not a very strong one. I then have a couple of cups of de-caff tea if I need a warm drink late morning/afternoon.

I had about 4 days of random headaches and feeling tired in the afternoon and then adjusted to it with no issues - i'm glad I had the excuse to kick it because my caffeine intake was getting a bit out of control and the more coffee I drunk, the more I craved it.

[firstimer30s]

Podge, 2 children under 2?! Bless you and I salute you!

[29redshoes]

I would find it very hard to live without chocolate. I was the same pre-kids though.

I would not take kindly to being lectured about my food choices by a family member. What a cheek!

[SparkleShinyGlitter]

Maybe I am but I won't be giving up my lovely black coffees and yummy chocolate any time soon

Seriously has your sis nothing better to do than lecture and adult of drinking coffee and milk, bit rude if you ask me

[firstimer30s]

She is a very righteous vegan

[Pinkheart5915]

When pregnant both times I cut down to 1 cup of coffee a day. But now with 2 dc ( 16 months & 5 months) I need my pot of coffee in the morning and a few more cups during the day.

Chocolate I am never giving up, I love the deliciousness 😋

[formerbabe]

I never drank coffee until I had DC. I cannot start the day without one now. I also have one just before I do the school run. It's really hard to look after yourself, health and fitness wise, when you have DC. I get so fed up of cooking that when it comes to me, I can't be bothered to make myself a salad when a bag of crisps or chocolate bar is so much quicker!

[MummyToThree479]

I love my coffee have about 5-7 cups a day ( although I do like it black with no sugar) and I have a bar of choclate every evening with a hot chocolate before bed.

I hate people telling adults they shouldn't eat this and that. It's rude

At work I eat a fair bit of fruit, and a few of them say "ooh do you know how much sugar Is in that fruit shouldn't be eating all that" Do they know how much sugar is in there latte, porridge pot or "energy" bar, yet I don't comment on that. Fuck off fo god sake

[IAmNotAUserNumber]

I bet your SIL eats a load of processed "factory made" crap to make up for the lack of healthy protein and calcium in her life. If that is the case giver her a lecture on the dangers and toxicity of shit like soy milk and quorn. Nothing wrong with 2 cups of coffee at all.

[firstimer30s]

Is there toxicity in soy milk? Pls pls send me any link on that ! She gives me soooo many lectures on why soy milk should replace everything

[FormerlyFrikadela01]

Ever notice how it's coffee that e eryone needs to cut down on. I pointed this out to my mum who said my coffee consumption (4ish cups a day) was excessive. Didn't like it when I pointed out that she has always got a cup of tea on the go. She must drink at least 8 cups a day.

[MooPointCowsOpinion]

You are entitled to your coffee and cows milk. Your DS isn't wrong, cows milk isn't meant for humans and our dependency on it is damaging the planet. Caffeine is addictive.

However, I know these things and I still have coffee and cows milk. No one is perfect. Lecturing people is hardly the way to go about effecting change, if that's her goal, and part of being family is accepting perceived flaws in each other.

[IAmNotAUserNumber]

To be fair toxicity is probably the wrong word, but on the other hand a lot of so-called healthy foods are processed to within an inch of their lives, with all sorts of additives and preservers added. I'm pretty sure soy milk is one of them.
Eat This by Joanna Blythman is very interesting on food processing and factory food.

[Parker231]

Coffee and chocolate are my basic food groups - can't manage without either !

[SomewhatIdiosyncratic]

I don't drink coffee or tea as I just don't like them and people find that really unusual. I have started drinking fruit tea in recent years to reduce sugar from squash (I try to minimise sweeteners). I also like hot water which really raises eyebrows.

I will occasionally have red bull for an energy fix- usually if I need some instant fuel for a workout and haven't got time to digest a better option.

DH will drink coffee if it's on offer, and as it isn't at home, he doesn't drink it unless we have guests. He was drinking about 4 a day at work, and it took us years to realise that he felt crap most weekend mornings and was loafing around in bed with headaches because of caffeine withdrawl. Since he switched to decaf and fruit teas, he's found it much easier to make a prompt start to the day.

It is normal and easy to be addicted to caffeine and use it as an energy prop, but as addictions go, the health and social impacts are low.

Unless someone was consuming extraordinary quantities of caffeine, it's pretty sanctimonious to go around criticising it.

[SomewhatIdiosyncratic]

In addition to not drinking coffee/ tea, I have to be careful about milk. I can consume some dairy, but suffer for milk. I also suffer for soya too. I use oat milk to substitute (or coconut for cooking something richer) Soya is one of the big 8 for allergens / intolerances.