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To think if my husband could get hold of a gun he may do the same

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Thefishewife Thu 17-Nov-16 13:28:26

Killing is wrong however I can't say if my husband had the acesss to guns they do in the us he wouldn't do the same I saw how he reacted when our 16 year old was attacked last he grabbed a hammer and went looking for the guys

I couldn't say with all honesty if one of our daughters was sexually abused he wouldn't kill the and I am ashamed to say I might let him 😳🙁

I just being honest he did need to be punished but I think 40 years since to long if that's not provacation don't know what is

I just don't think you would be thinking clearly of something like that happened

BIWI Thu 17-Nov-16 13:30:25

He killed someone. No matter what the provocation.

Sparlklesilverglitter Thu 17-Nov-16 13:31:11

How is having her dad in prison for 40 years gong to help the daughter? She needs her family support.

As a parent I can see why you'd want to hurt someone that hurt your child however to me that does excuse murder and it certainly does help your child when your locked away

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Thu 17-Nov-16 13:31:44

Good thing he doesn't have access to a gun then.

Thefishewife Thu 17-Nov-16 13:33:04

No agree totally but I can see how this could of happened

I do think he should be punished but I think 40 years considering the man in question abused his daughter is a bit harsh

OnionKnight Thu 17-Nov-16 13:33:09

If he did do that then he'd be an idiot.

user1471451684 Thu 17-Nov-16 13:33:38

I doubt the guy would have survived prison anyway. I would expect most people would want to defend their kids.

kali110 Thu 17-Nov-16 13:33:46

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EatTheCake Thu 17-Nov-16 13:34:08

I don't think the fathers actions will help his DD in the long run. After abuse she will need her family and he can't support her from behind bars.

What about if she needs protecting in the future? Dad won't be around
Who will support her? Dad won't around
Who will miss 40 years of his DD life? The bad will
I'm not sure the dad is covered in glory TBH

kali110 Thu 17-Nov-16 13:34:20

I think he deserved prison, but the sentance was much too long.

PilkoPumpPants Thu 17-Nov-16 13:34:22

I feel the same as you fishe.

PilkoPumpPants Thu 17-Nov-16 13:35:24

40years in prison is far too long.

TheWrathFromHighAtopTheThing Thu 17-Nov-16 13:37:22

Well, what kind of message would it send if the sentence was reduced due to the circumstances? That's as good as saying it's not quite as bad to murder someone if they've done wrong, or you're really pissed off with them.

Murder is murder is murder.

Pinkheart5915 Thu 17-Nov-16 13:37:58

So the girl suffers abuse and then loses her father for 40 years, well the dad really helped her then didn't he?

His a murderer he deserves prisons.

If someone hurt my DC in that way I'd much rather DH used his brain and supported his child that acting that way

Thefishewife Thu 17-Nov-16 13:38:09

I don't belive if any dads could get ther abuser of there child in a room
When they left the room the perpetrator would still be standing let alone alive

I thi

MackerelOfFact Thu 17-Nov-16 13:39:19

It's never OK to kill someone. There is a criminal justice system for a reason. It's their job to find out if someone is guilty and then dispense the punishment. Vigilante justice, however tempting, is not acceptable.

OliviaBensonOnAGoodDay Thu 17-Nov-16 13:41:24

You can't just go round killing people who hurt your kids. Or people who you think hurt your kids. What if you got it wrong? Mistaken identity, a mix up?

TheWrathFromHighAtopTheThing Thu 17-Nov-16 13:42:59

Well fishwife that's why there's an entire justice system and we don't just let citizens beat each other to death as punishment. confused

WorraLiberty Thu 17-Nov-16 13:46:21

Why Dads though?

I couldn't say with all honesty if one of our daughters was sexually abused he wouldn't kill the and I am ashamed to say I might let him

Would you want to kill the abuser and if so, would your DH 'let' you?

Thisjustinno Thu 17-Nov-16 13:48:51

Violence is unacceptable. Always. When we say that it's acceptable under certain circumstances then we legitimise it.

One of the first excuses for violence tends to be 'I was provoked'. I'd be worried that your husband grabbed a hammer to go looking for who attacked your DC if I'm honest.

iloveeverykindofcat Thu 17-Nov-16 13:49:46

I don't believe the sentence should be mitigated. You either believe in the rule of law or you don't. Once you start making exceptions, however justifiable individual cases ma sound, you're on the slide to anarchy.

SuffolkBumkin Thu 17-Nov-16 13:50:16

Everything about a peadophile repulsed me. Until I worked in a psychiatric hospital. The Care plans would read like a horror movie. But very quickly I began to realise that a great many of them are terribly tortured souls who had been victims of horrendous sexual abuse themselves. They needed to be kept saying away from vulnerable potential victims but needed protecting themselves iyswim?
Easy to be sympathetic if it not a affected personally though, maybe I would feel different if it was my daughter who had been abused?

AmeliaJack Thu 17-Nov-16 13:51:23

We have laws and courts for a reason.

Otherwise everything falls apart.

If it's OK for a father to kill someone who abused their daughter, does it become ok to beat someone up who called her names and upset her?

Does it become ok to murder someone you "suspect" raped or assaulted your daughter, even if there's no proof? What happens if it turns out that you're wrong?

What happens if mobs start hunting people down because of rumours?

And yes I would hate anyone who hurt my children but that's why I wouldn't be allowed on the jury.

JeepersMcoy Thu 17-Nov-16 13:51:28

I have very little time of men who think it helps for them to go on some sort of revenge mission. It is generally selfish, allowing him to feel all big and tough. As others have said it certainly will not help his daughter in any way whatsoever.

Of course if someone hurt my dd my. dh would be furious. Yes, we would rant and talk to each other about how we wish they could hurt as much as our daughter had been hurt. However, I would think so much less of my dh if I really believed he would act on that feeling. I expect him to be a grown up and think of what is best to support our dd not go and get himself locked up.

user1471451684 Thu 17-Nov-16 13:53:45

Miss read the original post, 40 years is too long,

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