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Understanding Trumpery?

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Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Mon 14-Nov-16 11:02:03

This is a genuine question to try and understand Trumpery and the appeal of Brexit.

The attached image is from a Considerate Constructers poster on a construction site in Wokingham. (PS sorry if it is a bit small). Whilst I think understand the intention of the message, can I ask people for their interpretation of what message it sends? The banner headline says Considerate Constructers care about the environment.

By way of background info, Considerate Constructors was set up some years ago to stamp put cat calling and wolf whistles from builders on scaffolding. It is now a major campaigning group dedicated to improving the image of construction. Wokingham is a wealthy town just west of Heathrow that is almost entirely WASP (white Anglo Saxon Protestant).

Obviously there are significant differences between the US and UK. But much has been made about similarities. Regardless, it is apparent our community is at risk of dividing. I hope we can try to understand why in order to avoid conflict.

StillMaidOfStars Mon 14-Nov-16 11:11:08

I have no idea what point you're trying no to make.

Am very much hoping you're not suggesting that using an image of a black person isn't in message/appropriate in a majority white area?

whifflesqueak Mon 14-Nov-16 11:12:52

what?

maxfielder20 Mon 14-Nov-16 11:15:26

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SpeakNoWords Mon 14-Nov-16 11:22:57

What are you trying to ask? Your post makes little sense. "WASP" is an acronym which has an American meaning and doesn't make any sense used in this context.

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Mon 14-Nov-16 11:48:23

I am asking what message you think that image conveys to the various people who wee it? So that is people on the site, people who deliver to the site and people who walk past the site?

I am not suggesting anything. I am asking questions in the manor of that Socrates chappie from ancient Greek times. I am asking to find out if the image is creating the image it is intended to convey? Or is it creating an unintended message to some people?

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Mon 14-Nov-16 11:51:49

PS, got to go out for a while...

CockacidalManiac Mon 14-Nov-16 11:52:29

Eh?

FlyingElbows Mon 14-Nov-16 11:52:38

Oh come on, have the courage of your convictions and say what you really mean.

EdmundCleverClogs Mon 14-Nov-16 11:54:51

PS, got to go out for a while...

Off to visit someone who can make sense of what you're asking? Or have you run out of vodka?

CockacidalManiac Mon 14-Nov-16 11:56:56

Or back to cloud cuckoo land

MaidOfStars Mon 14-Nov-16 11:57:19

Or is it creating an unintended message to some people?
Why don't you just tell us what you think this might be?

Chippednailvarnishing Mon 14-Nov-16 12:00:42

I am asking what message you think that image conveys to the various people who wee it?

I think the message is "we have happy builders, so wee somewhere else".

SpeakNoWords Mon 14-Nov-16 12:01:46

"I am asking what message you think that image conveys to the various people who see it? "

How do you know what the creators of that image intended to convey? What is the unintended message that it might be conveying? I imagine it has something to do with race, given your attempt to describe the inhabitants of Wokingham. I wonder why you're not saying what you think about it?

Cynara Mon 14-Nov-16 12:05:28

I've read your OP twice and I genuinely don't understand what you're asking. I have tried to work it out by framing it with your original references to "Trumpery" and Brexit, and then by disregarding that altogether and concentrating on the (new) question in your second post, but either way I'm stumped. Can you explain a bit further what you mean?

MaidOfStars Mon 14-Nov-16 12:06:08

what message you think that image conveys to the various people who see it
OK, having checked the website, that banner is available to buy and is accompanied by the tagline: considerate constructor's secure everyone's safety.

So I'll bite.

Use of a black women in the publicity for a traditionally male industry suggests that the organisation is keen to promote diversity in the trade, that they think equality is key and that intolerance in the construction industry should not be tolerated.

i.e. the "vulnerable" staff member will be protected.

MaidOfStars Mon 14-Nov-16 12:06:45

No idea where Trump and Brexit are being brought into this....

CockacidalManiac Mon 14-Nov-16 12:07:20

Because the headline mentioned Trump?

CockacidalManiac Mon 14-Nov-16 12:07:54

Sorry, misunderstood there.

Chippednailvarnishing Mon 14-Nov-16 12:11:10

I am asking questions in the manor of that Socrates chappie from ancient Greek times

I doubt that very much.

Brankolium Mon 14-Nov-16 12:12:20

"This is a genuine question to try and understand Trumpery and the appeal of Brexit"

But you are asking about a poster in Wokingham? confused

Chippednailvarnishing Mon 14-Nov-16 12:17:20

I've got it! They're the builders considerately constructing Trump's wall!

CockacidalManiac Mon 14-Nov-16 12:18:17

I'm going to make a massive assumption here and risk looking daft;

OP, do you think that it's wrong or 'PC gone mad' for a builder to have a black person on a poster in a predominantly white town? Because that would be nutty.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Mon 14-Nov-16 12:20:59

Are you suggesting Wokingham is representative of something the poster isn't?
But why? Are you seeing division in society represented by Wokingham on one side and the poster on the other?
Again why?

All very mysterious.

Wookiecookies Mon 14-Nov-16 12:24:09

Really no idea what this post is about!

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