to think eight months in prison is a bit excessive for throwing bacon

(235 Posts)
CondyLisa Thu 03-Nov-16 09:38:13

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2095440/two-polish-men-bombarded-london-mosque-with-tesco-bacon-after-oktoberfest-booze-binge/

"Blackfriars Crown Court heard that the pair had bought a packet of bacon at a Tesco after drinking heavily at the festival but could not remember going to the mosque on Sunday night, October 2.

Prosecutor Carol Summers said the mosque’s caretaker had at first thought the Polish pair were worshippers but was stunned when meat was thrown at him.

The men threw several rashers of bacon, also placing a third piece in the shoe of a worshipper."

They appear to have no prior offending history.

Obviously whether you are at a church, mosque or community centre, you shouldn't be hassled by drunken yobs and it is right that they should be punished, but this seems to be a de facto blasphemy sentence more than anything else.

I don't see that throwing bacon is more serious than, say, yobs ripping up flower beds that people have worked on, and which provide at least as much social utility as a place of worship - but the latter attracts a sentence of community service, whereas we have eight month prison sentence for some bacon.

Ohb0llocks Thu 03-Nov-16 09:39:11

It's a racially aggravated assault basically. They deserve everything they get.

TeaPleaseLouise Thu 03-Nov-16 09:39:40

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Backaffyaspookybitch Thu 03-Nov-16 09:39:59

I haven't read the article but is it being viewed as a hate crime?

World's gone bonkers though so I'm not surprised.

Ohb0llocks Thu 03-Nov-16 09:40:17

And I thing that acting in such a threatening, degrading manner towards someone visiting their place of worship is a lot worse than yobs digging up a flower bed. YABVU

needasmartnn Thu 03-Nov-16 09:41:00

Muslims burning poppies got fined a paltry sum. YANBU the world has gone mad. Double fucking standards don't even begin to cover it.

JaneAustinAllegro Thu 03-Nov-16 09:41:20

would you feel differently if it was burning a cross? do you really not understand the symbolism?

Wookiecookies Thu 03-Nov-16 09:41:42

YABVU, it was a hate crime, they should have got longer IMHO.

welcometowonderland Thu 03-Nov-16 09:43:34

YABU
It's a hate crime towards someone's place of worship

Ayeok Thu 03-Nov-16 09:44:09

If they threw bacon at a random passer by it would be different, but they deliberately sought out a mosque and did something that they knew was massively offensive and distressing.

abbsismyhero Thu 03-Nov-16 09:45:01

I don't recall Muslims serving an eight month prison sentence for racially aggravated anything its not as widely reported? Or does it not happen?

StillSmallVoice Thu 03-Nov-16 09:46:48

YABVU. They went out of their way to be unbelievably offensive to people minding their own business.

WorraLiberty Thu 03-Nov-16 09:52:05

If they threw bacon at a random passer by it would be different, but they deliberately sought out a mosque and did something that they knew was massively offensive and distressing.

Exactly.

And then the cowardly bastards pretend they don't remember visiting the mosque.

Very convenient that the alcohol happened to completely wipe out their memories...

Awwlookatmybabyspider Thu 03-Nov-16 09:52:13

It's not just a case of throwing bacon, though is it.
It was hate crime. I'd have gave them 5 years.

Themoreitsnowstiddlypom Thu 03-Nov-16 09:54:20

I don't think its severe at all, i accept sometimes there are double standards ie in respect of the muslim's burning poppies just getting fines etc, but its the fines for burning poppies which is not severe enough.
I think that doing anything like burning poppies or throwing bacon at muslims and anything else similar to this should be dealt with harshly as it can provoke racial hatred and /or even cause public order issues in response to it and break down community ties etc.
People need to realise that despite what your personal views are it is not acceptable to behave this way and cause public distress, unrest and insult other peoples beliefs, ways of life and to disrupt their ability to be able to leave a peaceful life. so yes, throw the book at anyone doing anything like this.

ikeawrappingpaper Thu 03-Nov-16 09:55:10

YABU
But if you genuinely can't see that there's really no point trying to persuade you.

Branleuse Thu 03-Nov-16 09:55:57

its pretty easy to go about your day not doing racist hate crimes on people. They dont deserve any sympathy, and with the massive spike in racially aggravated assaults and crimes on people in the UK, im glad theyre taking this seriously. It needs properly cracking down on

ScarletForYa Thu 03-Nov-16 09:57:34

They deserved it. Putting rashers in a worshipers shoe is really offensive.

TheVermiciousKnid Thu 03-Nov-16 09:59:49

YABU. Can you really not see how this is different from ripping up flower beds?

ToastDemon Thu 03-Nov-16 10:00:33

YABU. This was a hate crime not a prank.

EdmundCleverClogs Thu 03-Nov-16 10:00:33

This country has seen a huge rise in racist behaviour since Brexit. An example had to be made, it may make other idiots think twice. Yabu.

ghostyslovesheets Thu 03-Nov-16 10:01:35

Good - Yabu op and I think you know it

Squeegle Thu 03-Nov-16 10:02:19

It's a hate crime. They chose bacon as it is deliberately offensive. I am surprised and shocked that two Polish men have done this. I thought they had more respect for religious beliefs.

M00MINMAMMA Thu 03-Nov-16 10:03:31

YABVU - they are racists and it's nasty intimidation.

JustAnotherPoster00 Thu 03-Nov-16 10:04:15

Muslims burning poppies got fined a paltry sum. YANBU the world has gone mad. Double fucking standards don't even begin to cover it.

Didnt realise the Baby Jeebus was big on poppies don't remember that in the 'good book' hmm

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