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To not know transvestite was an offence term?

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Powerrangersdinocharge Mon 17-Oct-16 12:39:52

Sorry for my ignorance but I always thought that a transvestite was a person who dressed in the opposite genders clothes and a transsexual was someone who was planning to actually have the operation to become the opposite gender.

Is this incorrect, I read that transvestite is offensive and no longer used.

user1476140278 Mon 17-Oct-16 12:42:20

Cross dresser is more acceptable since Transvestite was shortened into the offensive "tranny"

A cross dresser is not, by the way, the same as a drag queen.

user1476140278 Mon 17-Oct-16 12:43:11

Not all cross dressers want to become women physically either.

ThoraGruntwhistle Mon 17-Oct-16 12:43:45

I thought that's what those words meant too. What is someone called who 'cross dresses' then? (I'm sure you're not allowed to say that either but I don't know what to call it.) is it maybe the term 'tranny' that's offensive?

manicinsomniac Mon 17-Oct-16 12:44:05

Transvestite isn't an offensive word.

Not as far as I'm aware anyway.

ThoraGruntwhistle Mon 17-Oct-16 12:44:15

Sorry, X post

Musicinthe00ssucks Mon 17-Oct-16 12:48:09

I don't think transvestite is deemed offensive. Grayson Perry describes himself as a transvestite on this Twitter profile.

user1476140278 Mon 17-Oct-16 12:48:56

Well look SOME people find it offensive. So I think it's better not to use it.

HarleyQuinzel Mon 17-Oct-16 12:49:38

I didn't know it was offensive either, who told you?

Come to think of it though, no one really says it, cross-dresser is what people tend to say.

legotits Mon 17-Oct-16 12:53:02

Every day a school day.

I thought transvestite was the polite term for a cross dresser who had no gender issue.

Doesn't Eddie Izzard label himself as a transvestite?

Gowgirl Mon 17-Oct-16 12:53:26

Tranny always brings to mind dr frank n furter, damn good he looked too, with his muscles at finery! ..... Halloweens a coming!

Crispsheets Mon 17-Oct-16 12:54:27

Someone will always take offence

c3pu Mon 17-Oct-16 12:56:49

There's always somebody waiting to be offended once people start applying labels to describe sex/gender/sexual orientation/ethnicity/clothing choices etc etc...

SaggyNaggy Mon 17-Oct-16 12:58:08

Transvestite: wearing opposite genders clothes, not necessarily trying to looknlike opposite gender. Eg: man wearing women's jeans but no makeup, wig etc.
Crossdresser: wearing opposite genders clothes and trying to pass as opposite gender. Eg: man wearing dress with full makeup and wig, heels etc.
Drag Queen: over the top version of Cross dresser, usually done for entertainment pruposes. Eg: Ru Paul, Lilly Savage, same Edna.
Transgendered: someone who believes that they are the wrong gender, may or may not have operations and hormones etc.

Obviously they're all massive generalisations and the lines are very blurry.
But that's what I believe them to be. I fit into Transvestite and cross dresser, not drag queen or transgendered.

Powerrangersdinocharge Mon 17-Oct-16 12:58:23

I was reading an article in which Laverne Cox says that is an a transphobic and antiquated term.

I will try and link the article

cbigs Mon 17-Oct-16 12:58:46

I agree with last poster if we stopped using words that some people find offensive we'd all be mute hmm

Reiltin Mon 17-Oct-16 12:59:24

Eddie Izzard actually refers to himself as transgender now.

HermioneWeasley Mon 17-Oct-16 13:01:15

Laverne Cox is a lunatic who cries at the thought of male sex offenders being sent to men's prisons. I wouldn't take too much notice of Laverne's advice

Powerrangersdinocharge Mon 17-Oct-16 13:07:33

hermioneWeasley I didn't know that about her, I do actually like her and think she's very good in OITNB but crying over sex offenders is a bit off putting.

RoseGoldHippie Mon 17-Oct-16 13:08:44

I think we need a back story OP have you used it and had someone have a go?

I thought Transvestite was the PC term tbh! YANBU

OurBlanche Mon 17-Oct-16 13:12:12

Let me see. Rocky Horror, writen in the 80s by, oh yes! Him!!!

He who is now "70% man" I am sure he would re-writ eit if he felt he hd insulted himself! Or maybe, being a sensible humanbeing, he would leave it, marking the passage of time, PCness and social mores... who he was back then to who he is now!

Jaxhog Mon 17-Oct-16 13:12:58

It's very confusing these days. Although all the 'transgender' people I know just call themselves 'women who used to be men'. This seems pretty acceptable.

OurBlanche Mon 17-Oct-16 13:14:39

Ye gods! Written in the bloody 70s for gossake!

Gottagetmoving Mon 17-Oct-16 13:18:57

These days, if someone says some term or word is offensive we are all supposed to stop using it.
It's impossible to keep up.
Transvestite is just a word that means someone who wears the opposite sex's's only offensive if you choose to be offended.

Peach9876 Mon 17-Oct-16 13:22:05

Saggy I don't think I quite agree with your transvestite definition myself. I always thought it was the same as a cross dresser but some definitions agree with you and some agree with me...

If you are right then I suppose I too am a transvestite as I often wear clothes that are sold in the mens sections... eg tops, pjs (why are men's pjs so much nicer than women's!) and socks (seem to last much longer and I have big feet lol) but I have also at times worn my partners jeans (accidentally and on purpose) and went through a phase of sleeping in his boxers (make great shorts for the summer nights).

But if that is the correct definition then if you asked someone from over a hundred years ago (pre 1920's) then they might think that about all us women who wear trousers...

I also think that it politically correct terms depend on where you are in the world. People/person of colour is acceptable some places and black is acceptable in others but use it in the wrong area and it would be offensive. Same with gay and homosexual, and I'm sure there are many more. As a PP said, if you didn't use any word that someone would find offensive you would never talk.

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