To not give a fuck about yeast spread costing a few more pennies when there are pensioners that have lost 30% of their pension

[jdoe8]

Even if the spread went up, its only pennies a week. This is all noise and distracting from the real issues.

Pensioners abroad have seen their pension be cut by 30% since the vote. 30 fucking percent that is no small amount and will negatively impact millions!

[LikeDylanInTheMovies]

They moved abroad and knew currencies fluctuate. I doubt they were queing up to hand some back when the pound was strong against the Euro/Dollar.

[Me2017]

I don't have sympathy. They always knew the rules. eg some have their pensions frozen when they move abroad so when we have 20% inflation as we had for a few years in the 1970s they lose out big time. It is the risk you take if you abandon your homeland. Presumably they are not paying tax on their pensions to HMRC either so we lose out there too as tax payers.

[Myredrose]

They can't have it all ways. They aren't the group that I have the most sympathy for.

[Squeegle]

Blimey
No need to get so sweary. Like dylan says, they did choose to move abroad knowing that their pensions would be paid in ££s

[Soubriquet]

Meh. They saved enough money to move abroad. They should have saved enough to handle any flucuations.

I'm more concerned about people in this country then where they are sunning themselves

[Myredrose]

The ones that I know still come back to use the NHS a few times a year, I always wondered if that was allowed, presumably it is.

[PigletWasPoohsFriend]

they did choose to move abroad knowing that their pensions would be paid in ££s

^ this

[thecitydoc]

Pensions have not been cut - their value when converted into the currency where they live may have gone down as the pound has fallen against the major currencies - economist argue it is now at its proper value - but that is the risk they take when going to live abroad. Currencies fluctuate all the time as they are traded, and so pensioners who chose to leave UK should have built this expectation into their decision making process. Pensioners in UK have seen their living standards rise much more than those of young people, probably most people, plus they have all the other benefits of living in UK - free bus passes, winter fuel allowance etc. We need to get used to price rises as the effect of the Brexit vote begins to take hold - people were warned that living standards would go down but still voted out, and we are more than 2 years away from actually leaving.

[SugarMiceInTheRain]

I have sympathy for many groups of people, but pensioners who could afford to live abroad (and incidentally still get the winter fuel allowance) are not one of those groups. It's part and parcel of moving abroad.

[ToastDemon]

I think the phrase "abandon your homeland" is a bit unnecessary and Daily Mail.
I'm an immigrant to the UK but I don't feel like I abandoned anything, that would be a very negative way of thinking.

[jdoe8]

Sorry this isn't just a fluctuation, it's at the lowest point in living memory. I don't think anyone can prepare or even expect that!

Re NHS why shouldn't they come back to use the NHS, they have been funding it their entire lives. Most started work at 16.

[Gowgirl]

They can always come back and work in the strawberry fields

[jdoe8]

and incidentally still get the winter fuel allowance

That was stripped years ago for many, don't believe everything the daily mail says.

[Ego147]

So what pension should they get?

Should it be linked to local conditions? What would you like to see happen?

[LikeDylanInTheMovies]

Sorry this isn't just a fluctuation, it's at the lowest point in living memory. I don't think anyone can prepare or even expect that!

Yes you can and should.

[JoandMax]

I've moved abroad, we did this well aware our pension may be affected by a fluctuating currency if we retire here so no need to feel sorry!

[anon123456]

Apparently pensioners are hoarding all the wealth, time for them to pay more to support todays youth. They should really contribute to getting university fees down, after all they got a free education.

[Myredrose]

I should have googled


If you are moving abroad on a permanent basis, you will no longer automatically be entitled to medical treatment under normal NHS rules. This is because the NHS is a residence-based healthcare system. You’ll have to notify your GP so that you and your family can be removed from the NHS register.
Most people will no longer be entitled to use their UK-issued European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) to access healthcare in Europe, however there are a few exceptions. Read our EHIC guide for more detailed information.

[Squeegle]

jdoe , why are you so bothered anyway? Surely lack of marmite is a big threat to the stability of our nation.

[LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett]

I can understand that it's tough for people in that situation, but surely it's a risk they've taken by moving abroad?

[Ausernotanumber]

They moved abroad, as has been said. That's always going to have been a risk, surely?

[palanca]

regardless of the NHS rules they all come back here for treatment as no-one is going to ask them if they are "residing here permanently" as long as they have some sort of UK address given that they will still have a UK Passport and an NHS card

[2kids2dogsnosense]

Have to agree with Squeegle

We will be seeing Marmite riots in the streets and a black market in Marmite -related commodities very soon

Mark my words.

It will be just like the Blitz.

[Amateurish]

"Sorry this isn't just a fluctuation, it's at the lowest point in living memory. I don't think anyone can prepare or even expect that!"

Assuming your talking about the Euro rate, it was in fact lower in 2008 and 2009.

Anyone who retires abroad and relies on the UK pension should be very aware that they are taking a huge FX risk.

[KondosSecretJunkRoom]

They could always come back?

Maybe they could minimise their losses by smuggling back fuck-tonnes of nasty Marmite to sell at a premium?