To wonder why many MNetters say oop north

(59 Posts)
Topanga1 Tue 27-Sep-16 07:05:04

Are you pronouncing oop to rhyme with loop?
I've never heard a northerner, or anyone else for that matter, pronounce up to rhyme with loop.

confused

LottieDoubtie Tue 27-Sep-16 07:06:29

It's a jokey northern stereotype- it isn't exclusive to MN

DaisyFranceLynch Tue 27-Sep-16 07:09:23

I always read it like the "oo" sound in "good", rather than "loop".

"Sarf London" is another confusing one - is it meant to rhyme with "scarf"?

YesThisIsMe Tue 27-Sep-16 07:11:13

I think it's meant to be oo as in book.

BombadierFritz Tue 27-Sep-16 07:11:44

do mumsnetters say oop north? or sarf london? cant say i've noticed.

YesThisIsMe Tue 27-Sep-16 07:12:38

Sarf Lunnun can rhyme with scarf, or with air.

zoebarnes Tue 27-Sep-16 07:27:31

I say oop north and sarf london.
I'm from the north and I live in south London. They're just sayings.

Huldra Tue 27-Sep-16 07:27:56

Along with It's Grim up North and been around for decades. Southern's who say it are being self deprecating.

BarbaraofSeville Tue 27-Sep-16 08:18:24

I'm not sure that the southerners who say it are always being self deprecating Huldra. Some people seem to genuinely believe it, and think that the hundred year old pictures of mines and smoky factories are present day.

Oop north, rhyming with loop is well known, long established, pre Mumsnet.

BillSykesDog Tue 27-Sep-16 08:20:36

I live in Yorkshire and have certainly heard 'Ooop' said.

Loads of people up here say 'That there London' too which is the northern equivalent I guess.

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark Tue 27-Sep-16 08:22:02

Yes, it's not just on MN.

Shame nobody, ever, in the history of the world, even when taking the piss, has actually pronounced it like that.

The "sarf" thing is said out loud, and not just by southerners though. It's more sahth though. Or sahf/sairf if you're my cousin.

MaidOfStars Tue 27-Sep-16 08:22:39

Has thee ne'er bin t'Yorkshire or Lancashire, duck?

Go have a listen to Jane Horrocks speaking native.

BrianCoxWithBellsOn Tue 27-Sep-16 08:24:05

I live <adapts terrible Manchester accent> "oop Norf" but am originally from <channels Del Boy> "darn Sarf"

Have heard it lots in real life, mainly from my Southern relatives.

Tis just a bit o' banter.

Champagneformyrealfriends Tue 27-Sep-16 08:25:47

I'm from West Yorkshire and I don't speak with a broad accent however DH works in Barnsley and I can't understand some of his colleagues sometimes.

AGruffaloCrumble Tue 27-Sep-16 08:25:59

I'm just miffed there's nothing for the midlands. I've heard 'oop north' lots in RL. Almost always jokingly.

SaggyNaggy Tue 27-Sep-16 08:27:25

Having recently moved to a northern type place, next t'Ull, it sounds like "oop" to me.
In Hull it kind of sounds like,
"Goo'in oop rerd te gerra a can o Cerk"
Which translates as,
"Going up the road to get a can of Coke"

Hope that makes sense and does t offend Hullish people. I love Hull.

passingthrough1 Tue 27-Sep-16 08:28:01

Isn't up sort of uh-p? Because a southerner (big generalisation!) says more like "ap" as up and a northerner pronounces a u as "uh"??

Ifailed Tue 27-Sep-16 08:29:24

AGruffaloCrumble

If you live in Sarf London, the midlands is up north. As is pretty well everywhere, including Islington.

SaggyNaggy Tue 27-Sep-16 08:32:08

AGruffaloCrumble
Depends where in the Midlands, I think midlanders have many different stereotypes, from "Yam Yams" to "Treacle Towner's"

Being a former Treacle Towner, I can understand northerners, in Nuneaton they speak a bit like:
"Arve goo'in up the ASDA ferra tret, mart gerra can ov coke lark, me babbie"
grin

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark Tue 27-Sep-16 08:32:20

But even Jane Horrocks doesn't say "oop". She (and other Lancashire folk) just say "up" to rhyme with "cook". (though some of them will say "cook" itself to rhyme with "fluke" grin) As would my Grandad (Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire border)

Do people from Bristol really say Brizzle btw? My Bristol friend always writes it thus, and I've always wondered.

AGruffaloCrumble Tue 27-Sep-16 08:44:06

West Midlands tiny city so it's probably just irrelevant to the masses. If we had anything it is probably something to do with apples. It is a shire county though, so often gets LOTR references.

I've heard Brizzle lots from friends who went to uni there.

ExitPursuedBySpartacus Tue 27-Sep-16 08:49:18

Oop North is commonly used in our house, as is That London.

And saying it rhymes with book is quite funny, as there are two distinctive ways of saying it - an oop north one and a that London one.

Andrewofgg Tue 27-Sep-16 09:20:12

Yorkshire and Lancashire are not the North. They are the better end of the Midlands. The North begins at the River Tees and ends at the Tyne (north of which is barbarian country).

Not that I'm from County Durham, of course . . .

bananafish81 Tue 27-Sep-16 09:24:34

Mancunian living in London

Always say I'm going 'oop north' when going home to visit family

Use 'daaaahn sarf' less often

But then again my husband says I come back from a weekend oop north with a northern twang

Which after 18 years living dahn sarf has mostly been knocked out of me

Not by design. I find myself shocked to the core when I find myself saying barth or glars

blueskyinmarch Tue 27-Sep-16 09:30:15

Oop, loop, cook and fluke are all pronounced the same here in the proper North (Scotland). Everything below Gretna is South to me.

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