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or should they have just given us a bag?

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Catsize Mon 26-Sep-16 07:43:03

So, naice farm shop in a garden centre...

I buy two large homemade(ish) cottage pies and wave my partner in the direction of the till with the cottage pies and my credit card whilst I wait with the ferry double buggy and sleeping children.

She pays for the stuff and is then asked if she would like a bag as the till person forgot to ask.

"Yes please"
"Well, I'll have to charge you 5p"
"But I only have this credit card"
''I still have to charge you 5p"

So, rather than my partner just carrying the things back to us lot and putting them in the probably slightly unhygienic basket bit under the double buggy, the card is proffered and 5p put on a card.

MN jury, this was for a paper bag!!

I think that till person was bu for charging and partner was bu for putting 5p on a credit card, but I was wondering if a) you agree and b) whether we have broken a MN record for smallest credit card transaction ever...

treaclesoda Mon 26-Sep-16 07:43:49

But it's the law, isn't it?

Euphemia Mon 26-Sep-16 07:45:03

They have to charge - it's not a matter of choice.

Summerholsdoingmyheadin Mon 26-Sep-16 07:45:42

And you are so bothered by such a minor issue that you started a thread hmm

Your partner wanted a bag and she paid for it.
The shop doesn't legally have to charge for paper bags because they are paper and probably to small to be legally forced to charge but they can charge whatever they like for their bags as it costs them money to
Buy them in.

strawberrypenguin Mon 26-Sep-16 07:45:42

The shop was - they don't have to charge for paper bags and they forgot to ask at the initial transaction

dementedpixie Mon 26-Sep-16 07:45:44

They also shouldn't be using your credit card.

Jizzomelette Mon 26-Sep-16 07:45:48

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Euphemia Mon 26-Sep-16 07:45:52

And really, neither of you carry cash? hmm

BlueThursday Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:04

It is the law but it would have cost them about 18p to conduct the transaction

treaclesoda Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:27

It will almost certainly have cost the farm shop more than 5p for handling the transaction. Loads of places would have charged you £1.50 on top of that for a card handling charge, so 5p wasn't too bad really. smile

dementedpixie Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:35

In Scotland paper bags aren't exempt

Sirzy Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:38

It's not treacle. It doesn't cover paper bags and I doubt a farm shop is big enough to be covered by that anyway.

That said they are still within their right to charge and your partner could easily have just said no and carried them!

TobleroneBoo Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:38

I don't think you have to pay for paper bags, do you?

Summerholsdoingmyheadin Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:40

That is the shop being a farm
Shop is too small to legally charge (you have to employ a certain number of people before the carrier bag charge becomes a legal requirement),

BlueThursday Mon 26-Sep-16 07:46:43

Ah are you in England? In Scotland we get charged for paper ones too

Marmalade85 Mon 26-Sep-16 07:47:21

It's only plastic bags that cost 5p.

treaclesoda Mon 26-Sep-16 07:47:27

They have to charge for paper bags where I live. Are paper bags exempt in other parts of the UK?

stitchglitched Mon 26-Sep-16 07:48:00

Only large shops have to legally charge for bags so they would be exempt.

I think they should have just given you a bag, it is a bit miserly not to for a small shop that would presumably like repeat custom.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Mon 26-Sep-16 07:48:50

I think OP is happy with the charge itself, but not happy she was asked after having done the main transaction so there were two separate transactions.

expatinscotland Mon 26-Sep-16 07:49:04

YABU. It's 5p. That's the law. Don't like it, don't get a bag.

stitchglitched Mon 26-Sep-16 07:50:03

It isn't the law for small shops though.

Aeroflotgirl Mon 26-Sep-16 07:50:43

Yanbu it's a paper bag, they shod not be charging.

dementedpixie Mon 26-Sep-16 07:50:52

Also in Scotland there aren't exemptions linked to the size of the business. England seems to have a watered down version of the bag charges

Euphemia Mon 26-Sep-16 07:51:02

Blimey the law's much stricter here in Scotland!

All businesses have to charge, no matter the number of employees, and only tiny paper bags or bags for unpackaged goods (eg seeds) are exempt.

Do McDonald's charge you for a paper bag for takeaway food? They do here.

Catsize Mon 26-Sep-16 07:51:22

It's England, so no charge for paper bags. And not sure of the raw meat exemption as there was raw meat in there but it. Had been made into cottage pie so not sure. Am veggie and clueless. Still, was a paper bag.

And garden centre is one of those massive Wyevale efforts with a zillion concessions in.

Was just hmm about 5p on a credit card from all sides. My accountant might get a giggle if he spots it I guess. Will probably look like a mistake on the shop's part!

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