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School work being ripped out of books?

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M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 19:56:32

AIBU to think this is weird and possibly unethical. How can a child improve by not reviewing/ correcting their work? How can a marking policy be solely based on handwriting and presentation (all subjects).

This school is faking schoolwork surely by removing the honest account of what goes on in lessons?

I also think it is a discipline method purposefully intended to humiliate rather than improve standards. But I'm leaving that out as I want to know any facts over feelings on this.

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 19:57:45

Primary school. KS2 by the way. Yes, already happened and yes come down from head.

StillNoInspiration Mon 12-Sep-16 19:59:50

YANBU! Not only does it make a mess, but it is also faking evidence if the book was shown to Ofsted or the LEA.

If DC's school work was ripped out I'd be furious, especially if it was a discipline method.

Unless the child had done something REALLY messy like scribbled all over the page.

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:02:52

Great. Thanks. I just sat open mouthed through a parent/ teacher meet when they explained the new policy.

Ninasimoneinthemorning Mon 12-Sep-16 20:03:19

Yes that is well off. Wtf?

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:05:02

The parents agreeing with it surprised me.

Oakmaiden Mon 12-Sep-16 20:06:03

So what exactly is the new policy?

If it isn't neat enough it gets torn out and they have to redo it?

RafaIsTheKingOfClay Mon 12-Sep-16 20:06:36

What's the thinking behind that policy?

StillNoInspiration Mon 12-Sep-16 20:06:59

Just a thought.... could you report this to the LEA because they are wasting money by throwing away paper. Schools don't have very much money (I know that ours is £400,000 in debt) these days.

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:07:02

If it isn't their best work. Yes. Rip out and redo.

PopFizz Mon 12-Sep-16 20:08:06

How old is the work they're tearing out?

For instance are they proposing that instead of half filled books being sent home at summer and wasted, they tear work out to carry on the book in September?

HariboFrenzy Mon 12-Sep-16 20:08:19

I have occasionally done this at the start of the school year. It's been done privately and quietly though, usually if the very first piece of work is very poor and I'm confident that it should be better. I have taken the child to one side, discussed their work and asked if they would like to repeat it, pointing out it will be the first thing anyone sees looking at their book. This doesn't sound like what you are describing though.

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:08:41

I'm interested in how the teacher in my daughter's class knew after 1 week said child hadn't done their best in that subject too.

jugotmail Mon 12-Sep-16 20:08:58

Some children are very mentaly able to do the work but struggle with writing and presentation this idea will be a self esteem disaster "well you got it right but your letters arent exactly on the line so you are wrong" ?????

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:09:29

This is across KS2.

Geraniumred Mon 12-Sep-16 20:14:24

Umm, that doesn't sound good. As a left-hander with untidy handwriting I'm a big supporter of content over presentation. It has to be legible. In high school presentation matters less.

ToadsforJustice Mon 12-Sep-16 20:14:41

Wasn't there a NSPCC advert that showed an abusive parent ripping out pages of homework? confused

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:33:22

My daughter is one who does struggle with presentation. I know it will come up so preparing my discussion with the teacher.

M0nstersinthecl0set Mon 12-Sep-16 20:39:30

New books this year. They've shelled out on logo branded books as well. I'm surprised at them being so wasteful.

HexBramble Mon 12-Sep-16 20:43:56

Why don't they do a re-drafting exercise instead of annihilating some poor kid's work?

Sounds grim OP. You are right to question it.

Boundaries Mon 12-Sep-16 20:44:00

What was the actual conversation with the teacher, OP?

It doesn't really serve the school's interests because it would make it v difficult to show progress in books 🤔

redcaryellowcar Mon 12-Sep-16 20:44:49

Yanbu, I think you ought to make it incredibly clear to the head and class teachers that this isn't to happen to your dc.

Waffles80 Mon 12-Sep-16 20:48:12

In our (secondary) school we have a huge focus on teaching students to autonomously redraft their work.

Sometimes, it's logistically difficult for a child to redraft work into their book as it means flipping back and forth between pages. We might offer lined paper for the redraft, or cut out the 'original' for students to redraft into their exercise books.

We call this "DIRT" time, "directed improvement and reflection time". It sounds like that's what your child's school are doing. Some schools call it "fix it time".

What did the teacher say? Was it explained? I find it totally unbelievable that the pages would be ripped out in a critical way.

Waffles80 Mon 12-Sep-16 20:50:30

Agree Boundaries - Ofsted are so insistent that books demonstrate progress that I just find it inconceivable that the school are just ripping out and shredding work.

PerspicaciaTick Mon 12-Sep-16 20:51:00

That sound horrific TBH and it would destroy my DS, who is bright and full of wonderful ideas and information but who already finds it very hard to present his work neatly. He is improving, but he has been working on it for 3 years so suddenly ripping up work he has poured his heart into would be devastating.

If the policy is actually implemented as you describe, I don't think DS would be able to continue at the school.

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